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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @droftarts
      last edited by

      @droftarts said in Motors move wrong way:

      @tecno check the individual motor moves for delta here: https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_testing#checking-movement-direction

      Ian

      Guess what, all axis move as commanded in the test BUT in DWC it is the opposite.

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      • Dougal1957undefined
        Dougal1957
        last edited by Dougal1957

        @tecno with a simple diagram can you show us the motor positions when looking down on the delta from above similar to

        Z
        

        X Y.

        Also post your full Config.g

        Doug

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @Dougal1957
          last edited by

          @dougal1957

          ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue May 31 2022 17:03:35 GMT+0200 (centraleuropeisk sommartid)
          
          ; General preferences
          M575 P1 S0 B57600                             ; enable support for PanelDue
          G90                                           ; send absolute coordinates...
          M83                                           ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M550 P"BigDelta"                              ; set printer name
          M665 R300 L615 B275 H570                      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
          M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
          M669 S1 T1  								  ; kinematics linear delta
          M564 H0 S0									  ; allow axis movement not homed
          
          ; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
          G4 S2
          
          ; Network
          M551 P"bengt"                                 ; set password
          M552 P192.168.1.124 S1                        ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
          M586 P0 S1                                    ; enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S1                                    ; enable FTP
          M586 P2 S1                                    ; enable Telnet
          
          ; Drives
          ;M569 P40.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
          ;M569 P41.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 122.0 goes forwards
          ;M569 P42.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 123.0 goes forwards
          ;M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0                   ; set drive mapping
          M569 P0 S0
          M569 P1 S1
          M569 P2 S1
          M569 P3 S1                                 
          M584 X3 Y2 Z1 E0
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       			  ; configure microstepping with interpolation   X16 Y16 Z16
          M92 X40.00 Y40.00 Z40.00 E663.00              ; set steps per mm
          M566 X120.00 Y120.00 Z120.00 E1200.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 E1200.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1500 E800 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30                                       ; Set idle timeout
          
          
          ; Axis Limits
          M208 Z0 S1                                    ; set minimum Z
          
          ; Endstops
          M574 X2 S1 P"40.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
          M574 Y2 S1 P"41.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
          M574 Z2 S1 P"42.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in
          
          
          ; Z-Probe
          M558 P5 R0.4 C"io3.in+io4.out" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                           ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 R85 S20                                  ; define mesh grid
          
          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
          M950 H0 C"out0" T0                            ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B1 S1.00                              ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0                                       ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M143 H0 S120                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
          M950 H1 C"out1" T1                            ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00                              ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
          M143 H1 S280                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
          
          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"out5" Q500                          ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
          M106 P0 S0 H-1                                ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M950 F1 C"out4" Q500                          ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                             ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
          
          ; Tools
          M563 P1 D0 H1 F0                              ; define tool 1
          G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                               ; set tool 1 axis offsets
          G10 P1 R0 S0                                  ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
          
          ; Custom settings are not defined
          
          ; Miscellaneous
          ;M501                                          ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
          T1
          
          

          Z back
          X left front
          Y right front

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          • Dougal1957undefined
            Dougal1957 @tecno
            last edited by

            @tecno In that case I think your M584 is in the wrong sequence as George said above try

            M584 X1 Y2 Z3 E0 assuming that the motors are connected to X Y and Z ports in that order.

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            • tecnoundefined
              tecno @Dougal1957
              last edited by tecno

              @dougal1957

              Sorry but there is no reason to have X on port 1 !

              Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

              Will try to switch motor wires on one winding to see if it helps.

              //edit No it did not

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957 @tecno
                last edited by Dougal1957

                @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                @dougal1957

                Sorry but there is no reason to have X on port 1 !

                Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

                Will try to switch motor wires on one winding to see if it helps.

                //edit No it did not

                Your config order of the M569 P1 to P3 suggests that the motors are connected to ports 1 2 and 3 in XYZ order tho
                Maybe reverse the order of them may solve your issue because your motors all move in the correct way when individually commanded it has to be a config issue!

                Argh sorry that order I don't think matters but I think it is still worth trying.

                Just looked up M584 and wonder if this maybe your issue.```
                631dbc7b-99e1-4ae9-b65e-dd74cbb94907-image.png

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                • oliofundefined
                  oliof @tecno
                  last edited by

                  @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                  Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

                  if you switch the configuration and the wiring at the same time, the problem will persist. Do one or the other.

                  <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                  • Dougal1957undefined
                    Dougal1957
                    last edited by

                    Also remember that in Delta kinematics all 3 axis have to move for any movement in the cartesian plane.

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                    • tecnoundefined
                      tecno @Dougal1957
                      last edited by

                      @dougal1957

                      I have tried all possibly settings

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @Dougal1957
                        last edited by tecno

                        @dougal1957

                        So M584 line has to be X0 Y1 Z2 and E4 or E5 or just E4 no x/y/z?

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                        • tecnoundefined
                          tecno @tecno
                          last edited by

                          I feel like fool now 😞

                          Been looking at the carriage motion not head motion = NOOB with Delta 😉

                          All appears to move as it should.

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                          • Dougal1957undefined
                            Dougal1957 @tecno
                            last edited by

                            @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                            @dougal1957

                            So M584 line has to be X0 Y1 Z2 and E4 or E5 or just E4 no x/y/z?

                            I am just about to go out but I will get you a copy of my Config.g

                            
                            ; General preferences
                            M575 P1 S1 B57600                                   ; enable support for PanelDue
                            G90                                                 ; send absolute coordinates...
                            M83                                                 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                            M550 P"Delta"                                       ; set printer name
                            M665 R239.403 L450.7 B175 H401                      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                            M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                            
                            ; Network
                            M552 S1                                             ; enable network
                            M586 P0 S1                                          ; enable HTTP
                            M586 P1 S1                                          ; enable FTP
                            M586 P2 S0                                          ; disable Telnet
                            
                            ; Drives
                            M569 P0 S1                                          ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                            M569 P1 S1                                          ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                            M569 P2 S1                                          ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                            M569 P3 S1                                          ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                            M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                    ; set drive mapping
                            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                             ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                            M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z200.00 E2500.00                ; set steps per mm
                            M566 X54000.00 Y54000.00 Z54000.00 E2400.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                            M203 X1080000.00 Y1080000.00 Z1080000.00 E144000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                            M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E120.00             ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E500 I30                     ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                            M84 S30                                             ; Set idle timeout
                            
                            ; Axis Limits
                            M208 Z0 S1                                          ; set minimum Z
                            
                            ; Endstops
                            M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                            M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                            M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop
                            
                            ; Z-Probe
                            M558 P5 R0.4 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0.1                                 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                            M557 R85 S20                                        ; define mesh grid
                            
                            ; Heaters
                            M308 S0 P"spi.cs2" Y"rtd-max31865" F50
                            ;M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                            M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                            M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                            M140 H0                                             ; map heated bed to heater 0
                            M143 H0 S75                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 75C
                            M308 S1 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865" F50
                            ;M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138       ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                            M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                            M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                            M143 H1 S280                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                            
                            ; Fans
                            M950 F0 C"fan2" Q500                                ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                            M106 P0 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                            M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                   ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                            
                            ; Tools
                            M563 P0 D0 H1 F2                                    ; define tool 0
                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                     ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                            G10 P0 R0 S0                                        ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                            
                            ; Custom settings are not defined
                            
                            ; Miscellaneous
                            M501                                                ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                            T0                                                  ; select first tool
                            
                            
                            
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