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    • Gixxerfastundefined
      Gixxerfast
      last edited by Gixxerfast

      So, the latest beta version of the Canned ERCF expansion board is back from JLCPCB and is ready. It seems to work fine though I'm in the middle of building the actual ERCF

      It will require some more testing to be sure that there are no major flaws left.

      Canned ERCF board

      9c11c0bb-aff5-48b0-b366-406a60a1342d-image.png 0230449a-b219-409a-b96b-de0c6011d692-image.png

      The main differences to the first version is:

      • Added a 4.7Kohms pullup resistor on the TX/RX UART line to keep the line high when Duet firmware momentarily disables UART when reading and transmitting. This can be handled with software changes but that will make maintenance harder as there will be more code to keep up to date.
      • Added a 480 ohms series resistor on the io0.out PWM pin (to the servo)
      • Added over voltage protection (up to 30V) to the io1.in, io2.in and io3.in inputs
      • Added VIN voltage monitoring.
      • Added separate CAN connectors to make it easier to hook it in the middle between the board and for example a toolboard.

      I have made a fork of the Duet3Expansion firmware here which with the changes above only required changes to the SammyC21.h configuration file.

      There is some history regarding this board in this thread.

      Voron V2.4 (#1317) with Duet 3 Mini5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.1 Toolboard
      Voron V0.1 (#637) with Duet 3 Mini 5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.2 Toolboard
      Ender 3 Pro with BTT SKR-2 + RRF

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      • R4ffersundefined
        R4ffers @Gixxerfast
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        @gixxerfast This awesome, I may have to get some

        Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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        • Gixxerfastundefined
          Gixxerfast @R4ffers
          last edited by

          @r4ffers Well, I have some extra boards to sell. The tricky part is to get hold of a Sammy. the ATSAMC21 is a bit unobtanium at the moment (for us regular folks anyway)

          Voron V2.4 (#1317) with Duet 3 Mini5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.1 Toolboard
          Voron V0.1 (#637) with Duet 3 Mini 5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.2 Toolboard
          Ender 3 Pro with BTT SKR-2 + RRF

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          • Th0mpyundefined
            Th0mpy @Gixxerfast
            last edited by

            @gixxerfast I'd be interested in buying one if you still have one available. Perhaps a trade?

            Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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            • Gixxerfastundefined
              Gixxerfast
              last edited by Gixxerfast

              Apologizes to those who contacted me about the board, I have been (and still am) a wee bit under the weather but I'll respond to you shortly.

              Anyway, I thought that a good test for the board would be to hook it up to drive the A & B motors on the Voron V0.1 running two Nema 14 motors at 1200 mA at 4000 mm/s^2 (5000 travel) and see what happens.

              Said and done. Start:
              https://youtu.be/Jh0_QzTjQ-Q

              End:
              https://youtu.be/QYoGkQ9I5lc

              Finished test print:
              IMG_4164.jpg

              With this I'm pretty sure it will ahev no problems winding some filaments up and down with th ERCF

              Btw, the enraged rabbit feeder is on the way 🙂
              IMG_4162.jpg

              I have another new version in mind that utilizes more Duet hardware but it requires more changes to the firmware changing the slave addressing. Shouldn't be more that a few places. Maybe a couple of ifdefs is enough 🙂

              I just love the Duet hardware and RRF. Swap two drive cables. change two lines in the config.g and restart and you have swapped motor drivers to another board.

              Voron V2.4 (#1317) with Duet 3 Mini5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.1 Toolboard
              Voron V0.1 (#637) with Duet 3 Mini 5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.2 Toolboard
              Ender 3 Pro with BTT SKR-2 + RRF

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk
                last edited by jay_s_uk

                I have 4 of the Canned ERCF boards available.
                They come with all the connectors required. All that's required is for you to purchased a SammyC21 and to provide 2 x 2209 drivers.
                https://www.chip45.com/products/sammy-c21-1.0_atmel_smart_arm_sam_module_samc21_usb_dual_can_duet3d.php
                I have also compiled the firmware for 3.4.2-RC2. It's available here https://github.com/jaysuk/Duet3Expansion/releases

                They are £18 + postage.
                I can also supply 2 x Fly 2209 drivers for a further £10

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
                  last edited by

                  Filastruder still has the SammyC21 in stock according to their web site, https://www.filastruder.com/collections/electronics/products/sammy-c21-v1-0-duet3d-module.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • R4ffersundefined
                    R4ffers @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    @jay_s_uk Hi, do you still have any canned ercf left?

                    Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @R4ffers
                      last edited by

                      @R4ffers I do

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • R4ffersundefined
                        R4ffers @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by R4ffers

                        @jay_s_uk woohoo lol, It seems that I may have a Sammy on the way.

                        Could I buy a board from you please?

                        Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                        • Morane_3803undefined
                          Morane_3803 @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by

                          @jay_s_uk
                          Hi there, is one of the Canned ERCF boards still available?
                          If yes, how could I pay for it? PayPal?
                          Thanks a lot. Regards Martin

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                          • joekoundefined
                            joeko
                            last edited by

                            can i order the Canned ERCF board ?

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                            • Th0mpyundefined
                              Th0mpy @joeko
                              last edited by

                              @joeko Where are you located?

                              Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                              • joekoundefined
                                joeko @Th0mpy
                                last edited by

                                @Th0mpy germany

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                                • Th0mpyundefined
                                  Th0mpy @joeko
                                  last edited by

                                  @joeko I have a couple that I had made, but in the US. It would be much less expensive to just order it assembled from PCBWay or similar outfit.

                                  Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                                  • Th0mpyundefined
                                    Th0mpy @joeko
                                    last edited by

                                    @joeko That said, let me see if I can publish it on PCBWay and you could just order it assembled from them.

                                    Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                                    • joekoundefined
                                      joeko @Th0mpy
                                      last edited by

                                      @Th0mpy ok. but is it also possible to use an Expansion board with can conneted ?

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                                      • Th0mpyundefined
                                        Th0mpy @joeko
                                        last edited by

                                        @joeko I don't see why not. The ERCF board is really just a purpose-built toolboard. The benefit to the expansion board is that it's tried and true hardware, less chance of major issues 🙂 The big obvious difference is the form factor.

                                        Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                                        • joekoundefined
                                          joeko @Th0mpy
                                          last edited by

                                          @Th0mpy yes and the price 🙂
                                          but until now i am only think about. does this mmu system works without big problems ?

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                                          • oliofundefined
                                            oliof @joeko
                                            last edited by

                                            @joeko define "big problems" -- I know a bunch of people that use ERCF successfully. Requires some extra considerations, but that's to expected if you add multiple different rolls of filament and additional steppers....

                                            <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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