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    Orbiter 2 extruder mounting for Smart effector with Magball arms

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    • Snimaxundefined
      Snimax @dc42
      last edited by

      @dc42 I tried to keep the spacing between the balls at the corners. I think there was a formula somewhere of the stability of the effector where you wanted to keep that spacing short but I cant recall where I saw it 😕

      @Adrian52 Looks good! I like the idea of having a straight and much shorter filament path, compared to my adapter where the filament is in a slight s-shape 🙂 Haven't gotten around to compare it yet though

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      • Adrian52undefined
        Adrian52 @dc42
        last edited by

        @dc42 I have now done an adapter that maintains the 12mm spacing of the magballs

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        The carriage adapters look like this

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        I played with the offset, settling on moving the centre line of the studs 7.5mm from the base of the triangle. This gives very close (within 0.02mm) spacing of 81mm for the arms, requiring a 13mm spacer on each side of the carriage. As you can see, this gives plenty of room for the orbiter 2 mounted with a straight vertical filament path.

        I have printed these in nylon using 80% infill, which seems to give a slightly better result than PLA .

        Not much experience printing with this setup yet, but the initial impression is of increased precision over the 55mm arm separation.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @Adrian52
          last edited by dc42

          @adrian52 thanks. Wider arm spacing is generally preferred, because it provides greater rigidity and less sensitivity to small geometric errors.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • Adrian52undefined
            Adrian52 @dc42
            last edited by

            @dc42 I should have done my homework. According to the reprap wiki here , stability decreases linearly with ball gap, but increases with the square of arm gap. So compared to the standard geometry, keeping the arm gap decreases stability almost threefold, whilst the 12mm ball gap with wider arms more than doubles stability. I think I was so impressed with the improvement of direct drive over the bowden that I didn't consider the effect of geometry on stability.

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            • vapvapundefined
              vapvap @Adrian52
              last edited by

              @adrian52 As always, great idea!
              And as usual - we are waiting for the addition to "thingiverse".

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              • Adrian52undefined
                Adrian52 @vapvap
                last edited by

                @vapvap Thanks. Posted it now

                https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5463328

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                • vapvapundefined
                  vapvap @Adrian52
                  last edited by

                  @adrian52 Thank you so much for sharing your ideas with us.
                  Do you do any additional fine-tuning in the firmware?

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                  • vapvapundefined
                    vapvap
                    last edited by

                    Can anyone explain how to set this up?
                    With "Delta Calibration (G32)", the nozzle began to scratch on the center of the table ...

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                    • weed2allundefined
                      weed2all @vapvap
                      last edited by weed2all

                      @vapvap have you run thru
                      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Delta_calibration

                      https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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                      • weed2allundefined
                        weed2all @Fred-Y
                        last edited by weed2all

                        my LGX lite direct drive mount for smart effector for my 3 kossel printers
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                        https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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                        • Falkiaundefined
                          Falkia @Fred-Y
                          last edited by

                          @Fred-Y I have been thinking of that solution for my Orbiter 2.0. With my 80mm rod spacing adapter the Orbiter can be mounted horizontally.

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                          Printer: "Deltacus" Delta with 510mm bed diameter and 925mm build height. Powered by Duet 2 WiFi. Duet Smart Effector with E3D Volcano.

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                          • Falkiaundefined
                            Falkia @Falkia
                            last edited by Falkia

                            Made some mounts for the Orbiter 2.0. Works great with my 80mm smart effector adapter. Weight is 12 grams.

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                            Printer: "Deltacus" Delta with 510mm bed diameter and 925mm build height. Powered by Duet 2 WiFi. Duet Smart Effector with E3D Volcano.

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                            • PCRundefined
                              PCR @weed2all
                              last edited by

                              @weed2all possible to get the stl ?

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                              • weed2allundefined
                                weed2all @PCR
                                last edited by weed2all

                                @PCR yes...of course...I uploaded them to my thingiverse, just click on the signature and you go directly to my thingiverse page!

                                https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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