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    • PaulHewundefined
      PaulHew
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      • PCRundefined
        PCR
        last edited by

        @wilriker Is it possibble to upload a file and start the print?

        Best

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        • wilrikerundefined
          wilriker @PCR
          last edited by

          @PCR No, this is not a feature of rfm. It was and is intended to manage files on the SD card but not further interaction with the RepRapFirmware.

          Manuel
          Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
          with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
          My Tool Collection

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          • PCRundefined
            PCR
            last edited by

            Ah OK. Thank you! BTW will it work with an DUET3 with a PI?

            Best

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            • wilrikerundefined
              wilriker @PCR
              last edited by

              @PCR said in rfm - RepRapFirmware FileManager [duetbackup successor]:

              BTW will it work with an DUET3 with a PI?

              No, it won't because in that setup the files are located on the RPi and for Linux there are much better file managers than I could ever come up with. 😉

              Manuel
              Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
              with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
              My Tool Collection

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof
                last edited by

                It would be nice to have rfm support RRF3 with SBC for consistency's sake though (-:

                <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                • tristanryerparkeundefined
                  tristanryerparke @oliof
                  last edited by

                  @oliof I second this

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                  • laelundefined
                    lael
                    last edited by lael

                    I was just directed to RFM for backing up our Duet. Thank you to @wilriker it's amazing!

                    However, getting it started was a little slower than it needed to be. If you are on Windows and looking for a way to backup your Duet, here is a quickstart guide / manual that might help speed things up for you. (The guide may help if you aren't on Windows, but you'll need to adapt file paths etc as appropriate).

                    Download and unzip to C:\Users\YourUserName and name the folder 'DuetBackupRFM'
                      
                    Open Command prompt (Start - cmd - enter) which will open at c:\Users\YourUserName
                    
                    Chang the cmd prompt folder to the one you just unzipped to: 
                    Type: cd DuetBackupRFM 		; and hit enter
                    
                    Now you are ready to use RFM to backup your Duet. Read below. 
                    
                    
                    RFM Duet Backup Commands: 
                    
                    **note: must use program name, command name, then can use options and parameters/arguments.  
                    **ONCE a device has been specified (a device profile is created on first use), you can refer to the device without networking options by using the device name. 
                    
                    
                    RFM Command Syntax Explanation: 
                    
                    Valid Example command: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName sys 0:/sys
                    
                    Explanation: 
                    	rfm 		backup 		-device 	YourPrinterName 	sys 			0:/sys
                    	program name	command name	option name	parameter for option	local comp. folder to save to	Duet folder to do command to
                    
                    
                    Things you likely want to do: 
                    
                    STEP 1. connect to the Duet (creates a config for the Duet as the -device name) and list The Duet's root directory: 
                    	rfm ls -domain 192.168.1.12 -port 80 -password YourDuetPassword -device YourPrinterName
                    
                    STEP 2. Backup the sys folder on your duet (already created in step 1 in RFM) into a folder on your computer called 'sys' (which will be located in the same folder RFM.exe is located). 
                    Note: RFM will create the folder on your computer if it does not exist. RFM will also use UNC / absolute paths if preferred (so you can redirect outside of the RFM folder - see examples at end). 
                     
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName sys 0:/sys
                    
                    STEP 3. Backup the macros folder for your duet (already created in RFM) to a local 'macros' folder: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName macros 0:/macros
                    
                    STEP 4. Backup the filaments folder for your duet ((already created in RFM) to a local 'filaments' folder: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName filaments 0:/filaments
                    
                    STEP 5. Backup the gcode files on your duet (already created in RFM) to a local 'macros' folder: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName gcodes 0:/gcodes
                    
                    
                    - - Some other Examples: - - 
                    List all the files in the folders in the root of your duet: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName
                    
                    List all the files in the sys folder on your duet: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName 0:/sys
                    
                    List all the files in a folder on duet with spaces in its name: 
                    	rfm ls -device YourPrinterName "0:/macros/calibration/bed leveling"
                    
                    If you are using spaces in your RFM backup path or on duet - enclose in quotation marks: 
                    	rfm backup -device YourPrinterName "C:users/yourusername/DUET BACKUP RFM"  "0:/macros/calibration/bed leveling"
                    
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                    • demonlibraundefined
                      demonlibra
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                      Write script for bash (GNU/Linux) to backup all files.

                      #!/bin/bash
                      
                      # ---------------------------------- Parameters -------------------------------------
                      temp="temp"											# Temp folder for backup
                      output="backup_rrf_$(date +%F_%H-%M-%S).tgz"		# Archive name for backup
                      
                      # -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      mkdir -p $temp										# Create temp folder
                      
                      ./rfm ls | while read line							# Parse list of files and folders
                      	do
                      		if [[ `echo "$line" | grep "\[f\]"` ]]		# Processing files
                      			then
                      				filename=`echo ${line##*	}`
                      				./rfm download "$filename" "$temp/$filename"
                      				echo "$filename - File downloaded"
                      
                      		elif [[ `echo "$line" | grep "\[d\]"` ]]	# Processing folders
                      			then
                      				foldername=`echo ${line##*	}`
                      				./rfm backup -exclude overlays "$temp/$foldername" "$foldername"
                      				echo -e "\n"
                      
                      		else echo "$line - Strange line"
                      		fi
                      	done
                      		
                      tar czPf "$output" "$temp"							# Create archive
                      rm -rf "$temp"										# Delete temp folder
                      
                      
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                      • jens55undefined
                        jens55
                        last edited by

                        I am trying out rfm. I go into the folder that has rfm in it and do:
                        ./rfm backup -domain 192.168.1.163
                        this backs up the /sys folder on the duet card that is at 192.168.1.163.
                        If I want to back up the macro folder on that Duet, what should the command look like? Based on the help section of rfm, I was trying ./rfm backup /macros -domain 192.168.1.163 but I get 'directory not found'.

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                        • Nightowlundefined
                          Nightowl
                          last edited by Nightowl

                          Hi @wilriker

                          This is a great project and I would like to implement it on my system, but I (generally) manage the system remotely.

                          Specifically, I have a Mac (in the house) and use the Microsoft Remote Desktop (RD) app to connect to my Surface Pro (in the shed), via a wired network, which is hard-wired to the Duet3 MB6HC control board running my CNC machine (I don't run the CNC machine remotely, before anyone asks!)

                          The first question I have is, should I install rfm on the Mac and run it from there, or install it on the Surface Pro and run rfm from the Mac (via RD), and the second question is, which version should I use if it's installed on the Mac?

                          I'm running RRF version 3.4.4

                          Thank you

                          Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                          I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                          RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                          • wilrikerundefined
                            wilriker @jens55
                            last edited by

                            @jens55 said in rfm - RepRapFirmware FileManager [duetbackup successor]:

                            If I want to back up the macro folder on that Duet, what should the command look like? Based on the help section of rfm, I was trying ./rfm backup /macros -domain 192.168.1.163 but I get 'directory not found'.

                            You need to switch the order of parameters:

                            rfm backup -domain 192.168.1.163 <local-path> 0:/macros
                            

                            Note that local-path is mandatory if you specify a remote path.

                            Manuel
                            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                            My Tool Collection

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                            • wilrikerundefined
                              wilriker @Nightowl
                              last edited by

                              @Nightowl said in rfm - RepRapFirmware FileManager [duetbackup successor]:

                              The first question I have is, should I install rfm on the Mac and run it from there, or install it on the Surface Pro and run rfm from the Mac (via RD), and the second question is, which version should I use if it's installed on the Mac?

                              Actually this just depends on what is more convenient for you. As long as rfm is able to connect to RRF via network this does not matter.

                              I personally would probably install it on the Surface Pro just because it is closer. But again, it just boils down to what is more convenient for you. Mine is installed on a Raspberry Pi that is lingering around somewhere in the house and runs a background task that periodically checks if it can backup anything or not.

                              If you want to install it an the Mac use darwin binary. Although this will not work on a M1 MacBook. When I compiled rfm the last time there were not M1's around AFAIR.

                              Manuel
                              Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                              with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                              My Tool Collection

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                              • Nightowlundefined
                                Nightowl @wilriker
                                last edited by

                                Thank you, @wilriker

                                Mine's an i5, so that would be OK - but logic, and your comments, tell me I should install it on the PC!

                                Thank you 👍

                                Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                • jens55undefined
                                  jens55 @wilriker
                                  last edited by

                                  @wilriker, thank you!

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                                  • Nightowlundefined
                                    Nightowl @wilriker
                                    last edited by Nightowl

                                    @wilriker
                                    Further to my last post, I'm a bit of a biff with these newfangled things, so I need a couple of simple steps to follow - at least I think I do.

                                    I understand the file has to be run from the command line, but where would be the best folder to locate rfm? I appreciate it can be accessed wherever it is, but I would like to pre-configure everything, so it would be a simple process of 'clicking a shortcut' for the card to be 'backed up'.

                                    I'm assuming all the folders (firmware, gcodes, macros, sys and www) should be backed up, but does rfm process them all (if the correct parameters are set, clearly) or do I need to run rfm for each folder?

                                    This is what I think...

                                    rfm backup Weeble O:/ //Libraries/CNC Files/Backups
                                    

                                    ...where Weeble is the device name, O:/the root of the SD card and afp://SynologyHome._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Libraries/CNC Files/Backups where the files are to be backed up to?

                                    BTW, I haven't tested this yet!

                                    Thank you.

                                    EDIT: Is there a naming protocol for the backup files, or will they be overwritten every time they're backed up? P

                                    Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                    I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                    RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                    • Garth_42undefined
                                      Garth_42 @Nightowl
                                      last edited by

                                      @wilriker I am getting the following error when I run the RFM tool. I have attempted on mac and PC, and have tried multiple variants of the command, too. My duet is a Duet3MB6HC in SBC mode running RRF 3.4.5.

                                      Here is a screenshot of the output from terminal: 29d06f56-66d3-4130-907e-02eae2ed8ac6-image.png

                                      Best,
                                      Garth

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                                      • wilrikerundefined
                                        wilriker @Garth_42
                                        last edited by

                                        @Garth_42 rfm is intended to be used with boards in standalone-mode. AFAIR SBC builds do not support the full HTTP interface for file management plus any SBC has much more powerful means to interact with files than I could ever implement. 😉

                                        Manuel
                                        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                        My Tool Collection

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                                        • wilrikerundefined
                                          wilriker @Nightowl
                                          last edited by

                                          @Nightowl Sorry for the very late reply. First of all rfm has an extensive help page, accessible via rfm help as well as rfm help <command> to get more details on specific commands.

                                          rfm backup Weeble 0:/ //Libraries/CNC Files/Backups
                                          

                                          looks somehow wrong to me. Most likely you missed -device in front of "Weeble". Also beyond that you have further three parameters where rfm only expects two, namely the local path (to write the backup to) and the remote path a.k.a. path on the Duet (specifically in this order). So your command rather likely should look like

                                          rfm backup -device Weeble //Libraries/CNC 0:/
                                          

                                          but where would be the best folder to locate rfm?

                                          As you said you put it on your PC (so I assume Windows), to have it most easily working you need to add the directory you store rfm in into your PATH (I haven't used Windows in a decade so please bear with me if I cannot tell you how to do that on recent editions). On Windows there is (or at least was) no standard way of puting custom binaries anywhere so again this is left to you where to actually put the binary (sorry).

                                          I'm assuming all the folders should be backed up, but does rfm process them all

                                          rfm will simply backup everything recursively under the given remote path. In your case 0:/ will simply back yup every single file it can find on the SD card.

                                          Is there a naming protocol for the backup files, or will they be overwritten every time they're backed up?

                                          They will be overwritten continuously with each run. It will leave remotely removed files locally though unless you also pass the parameter -removeLocal.

                                          Manuel
                                          Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                          with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                          My Tool Collection

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                                          • Nightowlundefined
                                            Nightowl @wilriker
                                            last edited by

                                            Awesome, thank you @wilriker

                                            You are completely forgiven.

                                            The backup folder will actually be on a NAS (hopefully), but you've given me plenty to get on with.

                                            Thanks again 👍

                                            Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                            I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                            RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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