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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux

      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Z_probe_testing

      Calibrate the Z probe trigger height

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      • luca Massimilianoundefined
        luca Massimiliano @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux said in Z 0 is positive:

        Can you give us some more context to your method?
        SEND ME MORE MATERIAL

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @luca Massimiliano
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          @luca-Massimiliano

          Hi Luca, what material?

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @tecno
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            ; Z-Probe
            M558 B1 P8 R0.4 C"io3.in+io4.out" H15 F1500 T12000
            G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.557
            M557 R225 S100

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              How are you setting Z0 before measuring the probe offset?
              How are you determining Z0 before creating the mesh?

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux

                home
                move z down to get 0
                g92z0
                A few g30 s-1 to see that it is same
                open config.g
                edit G31 line with offset
                save and M999

                See to that no compensation is active M561
                G29

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                • luca Massimilianoundefined
                  luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                  @luca-Massimiliano NO IT'S NOT ENOUGH I WANT TO SEE THE POINT QUOTAS OF YOUR PRINTING PLATE EACH POINT YOU SEE CORRESPONDS TO 3 CORDINATES OK?

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                    luca Massimiliano @tecno
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                      luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                      • luca Massimilianoundefined
                        luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                        @luca-Massimiliano EVERY POINT IS THE POINT WHERE THE PROBE BEATS OK FRIEND?

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                        • luca Massimilianoundefined
                          luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                          @luca-Massimiliano EVERY POINT IS THE POINT WHERE THE PROBE BEATS OK FRIEND?

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                          • luca Massimilianoundefined
                            luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                            @luca-Massimiliano FRIEND SORRY I HAVE TO GO NOW EXCUSE ME BYE

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                            • luca Massimilianoundefined
                              luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                              @luca-Massimiliano Phaedrux KNOWS MUCH MORE THAN I

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @tecno
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                @tecno said in Z 0 is positive:

                                save and M999
                                See to that no compensation is active M561
                                G29

                                Try doing a single G30 at the center of the bed before sending G29 to create the mesh.

                                You should probably also redo your G32 first.

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux

                                  After a lot of tweaking this looks to be the best I can get.
                                  Every adjustment of the plate (3-points) a G32 is a must, G30 and then G29.
                                  Picture below is with 60°C heated bed.

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                                  New 8mm thick fine milled cast aluminium plate Ø600mm, what can I expect to get in flatness?

                                  Cheers
                                  Bengt

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                                  • infiniteloopundefined
                                    infiniteloop @tecno
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                                    @tecno

                                    8mm thick fine milled cast aluminium plate Ø600mm, what can I expect to get in flatness?

                                    That’s a good flatness, except of the front/left and rear/right - hmmm - "corners"?. For a Delta, a square grid as you’ve pictured is inappropriate. See M557: Set Z probe point or define probing grid for details. Instead of defining the grid by X/Y, use R to set a radius.

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @infiniteloop
                                      last edited by

                                      @infiniteloop
                                      M557 R225 S75 it is

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                                      • infiniteloopundefined
                                        infiniteloop @tecno
                                        last edited by

                                        @tecno

                                        M557 R225 S75 it is

                                        Within the radius of 225 mm, some points cannot be reached by the probe without mechanical problems. These are not related to the bed but probably to issues with your motion system - to spot these areas, narrow-down your mesh to an S value of 20 or similar. In the next step, you can either solve the issues (but maybe these are inherent to a Delta) or minimise the probing radius in order to get a proper mesh which merely represents the surface of your bed, excluding other factors. Else, you can’t use the result for mesh bed levelling.

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @infiniteloop
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                                          Can somebody explain what @infiniteloop is trying to say as I can not grasp this?

                                          @infiniteloop said in Z 0 is positive:

                                          For a Delta, a square grid as you’ve pictured is inappropriate

                                          @infiniteloop said in Z 0 is positive:

                                          Else, you can’t use the result for mesh bed levelling.

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                                          • infiniteloopundefined
                                            infiniteloop @tecno
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                                            @tecno said in Z 0 is positive:

                                            Can somebody explain …

                                            Sigh! Let me explain: you published this grid:

                                            Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-13 um 00.36.42.png

                                            That grid is square - to be precise, it has a dimension of 5x5 points. This doesn't match your circular bed very well. That's why I think you might get a better picture using smaller S values, something like this: M557 R225 S20

                                            OK, that's just to draw a better map of your casted print plate. It should cover a larger area than what you get with your current 75 mm raster. Had you ever followed the hint from my first post, you would know what I'm talking about 😊

                                            Now, let's talk about the mechanics:

                                            Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-13 um 00.36.42.png

                                            These two spots don't match the idea of a cast aluminum plate. There must be other reasons. If you follow my advice to generate a more narrow grid, chances are high that you will see even more of these "deviations".

                                            Well, I think these "anomalies" at the edge of your printable area point at mechanical problems (or physical limitations) of your Delta …

                                            … which puts our conversation into kind of a loop (as my nick name implies, I love these): after you have performed and published a better (more narrow) mesh, let's have a new look at my latest post (11.Dec 2022, 17:49).

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