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    • Reineundefined
      Reine
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      I want to add some light to my (6HC) printer and the Daylight/Disco on a Stick seams like a nice solution.

      From what I can see M150 supports DotStar or NeoPixel LEDs -- these (the RGB version) has WS2812B leds, would that work?

      The white only run on 24v and are pwm controlled, so they could be hooked up to a fan output?

      Here is more information:
      https://github.com/VoronDesign/Voron-Hardware/tree/master/Daylight

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @Reine
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        @Reine yes. the only thing to consider is the maximum current draw.
        each LED draws roughly 60ma, so 10 LEDs would be 600ma.
        out4 to out9 can handle 2A each so as long as you're under that value you should be ok

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • Reineundefined
          Reine @jay_s_uk
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          @jay_s_uk yes as either will work or just the white led version? If the RGB will work, how should it be wired?

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @Reine
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            @Reine as far as i know the disco ones are 5v so you would connect them to the neopixel header.
            The concern then is current draw and you may need to use an external 5v supply

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • Reineundefined
              Reine @jay_s_uk
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              @jay_s_uk I have a separate MeanWell 5v 25W psu for my SBC, but I'm considering powering it straight from the wall so it says on even after the printer is shutdown. So without the RPi on it there should be just enough power for three of those led bars.

              Would you mind linking me the controller? Will the controlled need to be flashed or just plug-n-play and everything then controlled from the 6HC?

              I'm not sure how much I would use RBG tbh, sure it's fun but white would probably be used 99% of the time anyway. That would be a cleaner solution I as it doesn't need a controller, how about power, would the 6HC have enough for three bars (total of 90 leds) or would I have to directly power it from the 24v PSU?

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk @Reine
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                @Reine i'm not sure what controller you mean? the 6HC has built in support for neopixels (both RGB and RGBW).

                And with connecting the strips to the 6HC or 24v it really doesn't matter. whats important is the current limit of the output you're using. The white ones can be daisy chained so as long as they're under 6A, it may be better to just use one of the heater outputs

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • Reineundefined
                  Reine @jay_s_uk
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                  @jay_s_uk ahh I read your message again and saw I misinterpreted you the first time I read it. Though you meant the RGB version needed a NeoPixel controller of some sort but what you said was it connects directly to the NeoPixel header on the 6HC. If that's the case, cool!

                  The once I've found do not have RGBW, have you seen any of those around?

                  I've tried to find specs for the CR80 72lm LEDs, do you know how much power they use?
                  Each XXL stick has 30 of them and I was thinking of using three sticks.

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                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                    jay_s_uk @Reine
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                    @Reine looks like the don't do an RGBW stick (although they should!)
                    RGB LEDs typically draw 60mA at max brightness. So 30 per stick and 3 sticks would be 90. This would be a max current draw of 5.4A (27W), which would be slightly above the current draw of your external 5v PSU.

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    • Reineundefined
                      Reine @jay_s_uk
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                      @jay_s_uk Do you have any idea how much those white only leds draw?

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                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                        jay_s_uk @Reine
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                        @Reine it depends what LEDs are used.
                        If its the spec ones, they can draw a maximum of 150mA per LED, so 13.5A in total

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        • oliofundefined
                          oliof @jay_s_uk
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                          I am running a daylight on a stick on a secondary heater output on an SKR2. It tends to flicker with PWM, so it's recommended you power it direct from the PSU, and only use the negative for PWM control/switching on and off.

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                          • Reineundefined
                            Reine @oliof
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                            Is there any other place to purchase these or alternatives in the EU than lab4450? I've reached out to the guy on Discord and asked about the daylight & disco on a stick, but his responses were not very convincing that he know what he's doing and tbh quiet rude at times. Not mentioning he never got back to me after "confirming" a XXL stick would draw max 10W..

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                            • jay_s_ukundefined
                              jay_s_uk @Reine
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                              @Reine if you're in the UK, printyplease and Vector3D have them

                              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                              • o_lampeundefined
                                o_lampe @Reine
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                                @Reine Just found them on fermio.de, but IMHO they are quite expensive.
                                IIRC I got 5 meters of NeoPixel RGB LEds for roughly the same price.
                                Not 24V, but 5V supply, so what?

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