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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk @Prathik
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      @Prathik as long as its a 6HC v1.02 then the answer to both questions is yes

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • techworldundefined
        techworld
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        @jay_s_uk Thank you for responding
        I'm unable to Reply from my personal account @Prathik
        Here we are not sure whether the Orbiter Extruder motor can handle 48V DC power supply.
        I don't want to use 24V power supply separately for the Orbiter Extruder, we want to connect it directly to the Duet 3 6HC MB Stepper Output terminals.

        https://www.trianglelab.net/products/orbiter-extruder-v20?VariantsId=10239
        this extruder has NEMA 14 36mm pancake stepper motor with the following rating

        • Current/phase - 1.0 A
        • Resistance/phase - 2.1*(1+/-15%) Ohms
        • Inductance/phase - 1.6*(1+/-20%) mH

        We require support regarding this.

        Thank you.

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        • droftartsundefined
          droftarts administrators @Prathik
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          @Prathik if you’re running everything on 48V, make sure your heaters are specified for 48V. Don’t use 24V heaters; they will be overpowered, and have the ability to reach dangerously high temperatures.

          Wiring multiple tools back to the the 6HC will be a pain. Have you considered using toolboards? You could also use 24V on them, which is plenty for the extruder motors, and allow use of more generally available heaters.

          Ian

          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          • techworldundefined
            techworld
            last edited by techworld

            thank you @droftarts
            Can we run stepper motors with separate power like few motors with 24V DC and few motors with 48V DC (Like the Big Tree Tech Octopus Pro board)?

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk @techworld
              last edited by

              @techworld no. but you can run the orbiter on 48v no problem

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • techworldundefined
                techworld @jay_s_uk
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                @jay_s_uk We were doubtful about connecting Nema 23 motors directly to 6 HC boards. I hope it doesnt need any external stepper drivers, isnt it? If the current is less than 5A, we can directly connect 4 wires to the board.

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @techworld
                  last edited by droftarts

                  @techworld why? I've ran NEMA 14, 17 and 23s quite happily with a 6HC and I know 34s can be used directly too.
                  You cannot connect an external driver to a 6HC directly. You'd have to use a 1XD or 6XD

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @techworld
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                    @techworld the 6HC and 3HC can drive Nema 23 motors easily, and some Nema 34 motors too.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • o_lampeundefined
                      o_lampe @droftarts
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                      @droftarts said in Orbiter Extruder Motor:

                      You could also use 24V on them, which is plenty for the extruder motors

                      I don't fully agree with that. A geared extruder runs quite fast and with 'full current'. So it benefits from higher voltage.
                      Especially when you retract/unretract with 'speed' it provides an extra safety margin.

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @techworld
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                        @techworld see this thread for a discussion about voltage and stepper motors.: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/32320/i-m-confused-about-stepper-motor-voltage

                        Ian

                        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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