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    • droftartsundefined
      droftarts administrators @tecno
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      @tecno said in 6XD I/O:

      24V ;(

      That shouldn't matter, as the 6XD IO#.in are 30V-tolerant. Just supply the optos with 24V, signal wire to the IO#.in.

      Ian

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        tecno @droftarts
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        @droftarts
        OK, thanks

        Lz mystery? Looks like a loadcell? Just behind toolheads.

        PXL_20240918_131600490.jpg

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          droftarts administrators @tecno
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          @tecno said in 6XD I/O:

          Lz mystery? Looks like a loadcell? Just behind toolheads.

          If you mean the thing the pokes out looking like a button, it could be a microswitch or pressure switch, or tool offset switch, or limit switch in case of problems. Otherwise, I don't really know.

          Edit: or is that the red LED cross target?

          Ian

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            tecno @droftarts
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            @droftarts PXL_20240918_131600490.jpg

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              tecno @tecno
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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @tecno
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                @tecno Maybe an inductive probe? ie for creating a mesh of the board if it is warped? This video talks about "automatically correct the offset caused by PCB irregularities". https://youtu.be/eW8JtbPlvKQ?t=29

                For wiring, see https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Z_probe_connecting#npn-output-normally-open-inductive-or-capacitive-sensor
                But could be NPN or PNP.

                Ian

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                  tecno @droftarts
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                  @droftarts

                  OK, will take on that one later on as I see it is not criticall for now to get this machine up and running.

                  Thanks once again Ian, I really appreciate your kind help.

                  So back to the machine and start crimping some connectors.

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                    tecno @tecno
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                    @droftarts

                    Part in yellow circle = LED light (feeling stupid)

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                      tecno @tecno
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                      @dc42 @droftarts

                      Now that I have all ports set OK I just found out that Driver 5 is not responding. Earlier test there was a mess on driver numbering so I took it for granted that all motors work.

                      If I switch wires from Driver 4 to 5 and vice versa the fault follows the cable. Bommer ....

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                        tecno @tecno
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                        console.txt

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @tecno
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                          @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Faulty Driver 5:

                          If I switch wires from Driver 4 to 5 and vice versa the fault follows the cable. Bommer ....

                          Do you mean if you switch the wires, the motor then stops working on Driver 4? Sounds like a cable issue.

                          Ian

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @droftarts
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                            @droftarts

                            Cable from driver 5 is not working if i use it on motor 4

                            Cable from driver 4 is working if used on motor 5

                            So Driver 5 on 6DX is not working.

                            PXL_20240920_140955435.jpg

                            Cheers
                            Bengt

                            ps. Camera and LED light is coming up next 🙂

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                              droftarts administrators @tecno
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                              @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Faulty Driver 5:

                              Cable from driver 5 is not working if i use it on motor 4

                              Cable from driver 4 is working if used on motor 5

                              I'm misunderstanding something. When you say 'driver 5', are you talking about the 'driver 5' connector on the 6XD, or the cable, external driver and motor that is connected to 'driver 5' on the 6XD? ie are you unplugging the cable at the 6XD end, or the external driver end? Ideally, swap the entire cable, external driver and motor (that is working) from 6XD driver 4 connector, to the 6DX driver 5 connector.

                              Also post your config.g, please, in case it's a config error.

                              Ian

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                                tecno @droftarts
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                                @droftarts

                                It is the Driver 5 on 6XD that is not working Have changed cables so no cable fault,

                                to_ian_config.txt

                                ;***Display initial welcome message
                                ;-M291: Display message and optionally wait for response \ https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M291
                                ;M291 P"Please go to <a href=""https://www.duet3d.com/StartHere"" target=""_blank"">this</a> page for further instructions on how to set it up." R"Welcome to your new Duet 3!" S1 T0
                                
                                ;***Network Settings Ethernet Version only
                                ;-M552: Set IP address, enable/disable network interface \ https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M552
                                if {network.interfaces[0].type = "ethernet"}
                                	M552 P192.168.1.25 S1
                                else
                                	M552 S1
                                
                                ;***Serial Setup
                                
                                M575 P1 B57600 S1
                                
                                ;***Name Controller
                                
                                M550 P"PnP" 	; Set machine name
                                
                                ;***General preferences
                                
                                G90		; absolute coordinates
                                
                                M83		; relative extruder moves
                                
                                
                                ;***Axis/Drives
                                
                                M569 P0 S0      	; X 
                                M569 P1 S0	        ; Y
                                M569 P2 S0      	; RECEIVE MATERIAL
                                M569 P3 S0      	; NOZZLE 1 OR 2
                                M569 P4 S0	        ; ROTATE NOZZLE 2
                                M569 P5 S0      	; ROTATE NOZZLE 1
                                
                                M584 X0 R0			; X LIN
                                M584 Y1 R0			; Y LIN
                                M584 C2 R0			; RECEIVE MATERIAL
                                M584 Z3 R1			; NOZZLE 1 OR 2
                                M584 A4 R1			; ROTATE NOZZLE 2
                                M584 B5 R1		 	; ROTATE NOZZLE 1
                                
                                
                                ;***Motor Settings
                                
                                M350 X16 Y16 C16 Z16 A16 B16  I1									; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                
                                M92 X40.00 Y40.00 C8.8880 Z8.8888 A8.8888 B8.8888 					; Set steps per mm 50mm/rev 
                                
                                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 C900.00 Z100.0 A100.0 B100.0 					; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                
                                M203 X126000.00 Y126000.00 C24000.00 Z24000.0 A24000.0 B24000.0 	; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                
                                M201 X50000.00 Y50000.00 C500.00  Z5000.0 A5000.0 B5000.0 			; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                
                                M906 X800 Y800 C600.00 Z500.0 A500.0 B500.0 I30					; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                
                                M564 H0																; Sets homing, H0 allows mvmnt wo homing
                                
                                M84 S30																; Set idle timeout
                                
                                ;***Axis Limits
                                ;-M208: Set axis max travel \ https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M208
                                ;-Parameters
                                ;-Snnn 0 = set axis maximum (default), 1 = set axis minimum
                                ;-Xnnn X axis limit
                                ;-Ynnn Y axis limit
                                ;-Znnn Z axis limit
                                M208 X0 Y0 Z0 A-180 B-180 S1	; Set axis minima
                                M208 X415 Y500 Z10 A180 B180 S0	; Set axis maxima
                                
                                ;***Endstops
                                ;-M574: Set endstop configuration \ https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M574
                                ;-Parameters
                                ;-Xnnn Position of X endstop: 0 = none, 1 = low end, 2 = high end.
                                ;-Ynnn Position of Y endstop: 0 = none, 1 = low end, 2 = high end.
                                ;-Znnn Position of Z endstop: 0 = none, 1 = low end, 2 = high end.
                                ;-E Select extruder endstops to define active high or low (RepRapFirmware 1.16 and earlier only)
                                ;-Snnn Endstop type: 0 = active low endstop input, 1 = active high endstop input, 2 = Z probe, 3 = motor load detection
                                M574 X1 S1 P"io0.in"	;X Opto 
                                M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in"	;Y Opto                        
                                M574 Z2 S1 P"io2.in"	;Z Opto
                                
                                ;***IO
                                ;-M950: Create heater, fan, spindle or GPIO/servo pin \ https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M950
                                ;-Parameters:
                                ;-Hnn Heater number
                                ;-Fnn Fan number
                                ;-Jnn Input pin number (RRF 3.01RC2 and later only)
                                ;-Pnn or Snn Output/servo pin number. Servo pins are just GpOut pins with a different default PWM frequency.
                                ;-Rnn Spindle number (RRF 3.3beta2 and later only)
                                ;-Dn (Duet 3 MB6HC running RRF 3.4 or later only) SD slot number (the only value supported is 1)
                                ;-C"name" Pin name(s) and optional inversion status, see Pin Names. Pin name "nil" frees up the pin. A leading '!' character inverts the input or output. A leading '^' character enables the pullup resistor1. The '^' and '!' characters may be placed in either order.
                                ;-Qnn (optional) PWM frequency in Hz. Valid range: 0-65535, default: 500 for GpOut pins, 250 for fans and heaters
                                ;-T Temperature sensor number, required only when creating a heater. See M308.
                                ;-Lbbbor Laaa:bbb RPM values that are achieved at zero PWM and at maximum RPM. (optional and for spindles only - RRF 3.3beta2 and later)
                                ;***Inputs
                                ;M950 J0 C"io3.in"	;Drag Pin Sensor
                                
                                ;***Outputs
                                M950 P0 C"out0"	;	Q20000	;#1 Nozzle Vacuum
                                M950 P1 C"out1" ;	Q20000	;#2 Nozzle Vacuum
                                M950 P2 C"out2" ;	Q20000	;Drag PIN Actuator
                                M950 P3 C"out3" ;	Q20000	;ENA Nozzle 1/2 Up
                                M950 P4 C"out4" ;	Q20000	;Xross cursor
                                M950 P5 C"out5" ;	Q20000	;LED light
                                M950 P6 C"out6" ;	Q20000	;Vacuum power
                                
                                ;***Analog Sensors for Nozzle pressure
                                ;-Common Parameters
                                ;-Sn Sensor number
                                ;-P"pin_name" The name of the control board pin that this sensor uses. For thermistors it is the thermistor input pin name, see Pin Names. For sensors connected to the SPI bus it is the name of the output pin used as the chip select.
                                ;-Y"sensor_type" The sensor and interface type, one of: "thermistor", "pt1000", "rtd-max31865", "thermocouple-max31855", "thermocouple-max31856", "linear-analog", "dht21", "dht22", "dhthumidity", "current-loop-pyro", "drivers", "mcu-temp" (see note below regarding "mcu-temp" support on Duet 3 Mini 5+). Duet WiFi/Ethernet with an attached DueX2 or DueX5 also support "drivers-duex". Firmware 3.2 and earlier also supports "dht11" but this support is likely to be removed in future firmware versions.
                                ;-A"name" Sensor name (optional), displayed in the web interface
                                ;M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"linear-analog" A"Pressure_1" F0 B0 C4095
                                ;M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"linear-analog" A"Pressure_2" F0 B0 C4095
                                
                                ;***End of config.g
                                
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                                  droftarts administrators @tecno
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                                  @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Faulty Driver 5:

                                  Have changed cables so no cable fault,

                                  You swapped the cable, external stepper driver and motor from 6XD driver 4, where it was working, to driver 5, where it didn't work? Are axes homed, or position set with G92, before you try to move them? When you send a move command, does the axis value in DWC change? Is any error reported?

                                  Are all the external stepper drivers the same? What make and model are they? You haven't added any stepper driver timings to your M569 commands, ie T parameter, something like M569 P# S0 T5:5:10:10, which is usually needed for external drivers; see https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_connecting_external#configuring-the-step-timing

                                  Also, on your M584 commands, add S0 to the ones with R0, and S1 to the ones with R1 eg:

                                  M584 X0 R0 S0			; X LIN
                                  M584 Y1 R0 S0			; Y LIN
                                  M584 C2 R0 S0			; RECEIVE MATERIAL
                                  M584 Z3 R1 S1			; NOZZLE 1 OR 2
                                  M584 A4 R1 S1			; ROTATE NOZZLE 2
                                  M584 B5 R1 S1		 	; ROTATE NOZZLE 1
                                  

                                  What firmware version are you running?

                                  Ian

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                                    tecno @droftarts
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                                    @droftarts

                                    3.5.1

                                    No homeing yet M564 H0

                                    Edit config

                                    ;***Axis/Drives

                                    M569 P0 S0 T5:5:10:10 ; X
                                    M569 P1 S0 T5:5:10:10 ; Y
                                    M569 P2 S0 T5:5:10:10 ; RECEIVE MATERIAL
                                    M569 P3 S1 T5:5:10:10 ; NOZZLE 1 OR 2
                                    M569 P4 S1 T5:5:10:10 ; ROTATE NOZZLE 2
                                    M569 P5 S1 T5:5:10:10 ; ROTATE NOZZLE 1

                                    M584 X0 R0 ; X LIN
                                    M584 Y1 R0 ; Y LIN
                                    M584 C2 R0 ; RECEIVE MATERIAL
                                    M584 Z3 R1 ; NOZZLE 1 OR 2
                                    M584 A4 R1 ; ROTATE NOZZLE 2
                                    M584 B5 R1 ; ROTATE NOZZLE 1

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @tecno
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                                      @tecno you changed the S0/S1 in M569, I said to add it to M584.

                                      Please answer these questions:
                                      You swapped the cable, external stepper driver and motor from 6XD driver 4, where it was working, to driver 5, where it didn't work?
                                      When you send a move command, does the axis value in DWC change?
                                      Is any error reported?
                                      Are all the external stepper drivers the same?
                                      What make and model are they?

                                      Ian

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                                        tecno @droftarts
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                                        @droftarts
                                        Hi Ian,
                                        Will try to get my Swedinglish on track 🙂

                                        6DX Chinese driver Chinese motor

                                        Driver 5 ---------------A-------------------------A NO GO
                                        Driver 4 ---------------B-------------------------B WORKING OK

                                        Cable from Driver 4 to Chinese driver A Working OK
                                        Cable from Driver 5 to Chinese driver B NO GO

                                        Switching cables same result

                                        DWC = yes

                                        No errors

                                        External drivers are the same as are motors, rotating nozzles No model on these drivers.

                                        There is a blue LED showing direction, goes on/off changing direction. But not from Driver 5

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                                          tecno @tecno
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                                          @droftarts

                                          ;***Outputs
                                          M950 P0 C"out0" ; Q500 ;#1 Nozzle Vacuum
                                          M950 P1 C"out1" ; Q500 ;#2 Nozzle Vacuum
                                          M950 P2 C"out2" ; Q500 ;Drag PIN Actuator
                                          M950 P3 C"out3" ; Q500 ;ENA Nozzle 1/2 Up
                                          M950 P4 C"out4" ; Q500 ;Xross cursor
                                          M950 P5 C"out5" ; Q500 ;LED light
                                          M950 P6 C"out6" ; Q500 ;Vacuum power

                                          How can I check ON/OFF on above outputs?

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                                            droftarts administrators @tecno
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                                            @tecno For driver 5 not working:

                                            I think you have swapped those around cables and drivers to show that driver 5 output on the 6XD isn't working correctly. Can you:

                                            • check if you are using the enable signal. If you are, disconnect it (most external drivers are enabled by default) and check if it works. If not, check if there is any dip switches on the driver for default enable/disable, and/or set the dip switches the same as the other nozzle driver. Maybe post a picture of any dip switches.
                                            • If you have a multimeter, check you are getting 5V on the driver 5 5V pin. Then check for continuity between 5V and the enable pin, and direction pin when a command is sent. Using a multimeter to check if step pulses are sent usually doesn't work, as the step pulses are too fat for a multimeter. If you have an oscilloscope, you can check them that way, though.
                                            • If the above still doesn't work, check the soldering of the driver 5 connector on the 6XD, both sides. It may be a dry solder joint or something bridging or grounding the pins. Post photos if you're not sure.

                                            How can I check ON/OFF on above outputs?

                                            Sending 'M43 P0' or 'M280 P0' doesn't report the current PWM setting (@dc42 perhaps it should?) but you can check the current setting in the Object Model. Defined outputs are listed in the Object Model under state > gpOut[#], where # is the GPIO number defined by the M950 command. eg:

                                            M950 P1 C"exp.heater5" ; tested on Duet 2 WiFi
                                            M42 P1 S1
                                            echo state.gpOut[1].pwm
                                            1.00
                                            M42 P1 S0.5
                                            echo state.gpOut[1].pwm
                                            0.50
                                            M42 P1 S0
                                            echo state.gpOut[1].pwm
                                            0.00
                                            

                                            So that should let you query them. Or is it that you want to display their status in DWC?

                                            Ian

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