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    Duet 3 mini 5+/FYSETC Big Dipper on FFCP/Flashforge Creator Pro

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    • oliofundefined
      oliof
      last edited by

      the endstops need to be wired individually. See the diagram 97799a7f-a4c4-4615-9bda-67642609b0a3-image.png.

      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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      • Inlinebrotherundefined
        Inlinebrother @oliof
        last edited by Inlinebrother

        @oliof Hi, thanks, I don't understand what you mean though.

        Actually forgot to mention where I plan to put which cabel. Maybe that will clear things out

        1. So with drivers everything is obvious
        2. Endstops according to docs under the scheme are going into io_0-io-6 ports.
          MightyBoard endstops Mech 1.3v have 4 pins (signal, GND,GND, 5v)
          So I decided to use three out of five pins for each endstop based on this doc https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Sensors_endstops
          signal == io_in
          gnd1 + gnd2 == gnd
          vcc/5v == DC-DC 5V
        3. Fans will go into out_3-out_6 ports
          +positive cable will go into - V_OUTLC1+
          -negative cable will go into - out-
        4. Board thermistor will maybe go into temp0-temp2 and again 4 pins should become 2 pins. But according to mightyBoard pinout it has
          HB_T
          GND
          GND
          5v
          And what is bothering me is that it needs some power and maybe should go into one of the io ports and not temp
        5. I have a daugherboard for extruder thermocouples
        6. Power cables go where they should.
          But I have only two cables for the bed,
          so I guess
          +positive will go into - BED POWER IN
          -negative will go into - OUT0-
        7. And LED should go into NP_LED I suppose, but it is hard for me to understand what pins should go where.
          According to mightyboard doc the LED has 4 pins
          24v
          LED0
          LED1
          LED2
          And Big Dipper has 3
          GND
          DO(PA8)
          V-LED
          I guess V-LED might be the power pin. But other pins seem incompatible
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        • oliofundefined
          oliof
          last edited by

          looks like the mechanical endstops have gnd and signal for the end stop, and gnd and vin for the activity LED. I don't know if its advisable to tie gnd together in this case as vin for the led may interfere with signal. I'd personally forego attaching the LED.

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          • oliofundefined
            oliof @Inlinebrother
            last edited by

            @Inlinebrother NP Led is for Neo pixel LEDs and not related to individual dumb LEDs.

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            • Inlinebrotherundefined
              Inlinebrother
              last edited by

              Hi, some updates
              I received an endstop cable
              And yesterday, after a month or two 😄 found some motivation to start checking how it works
              So here is the list of what is checked right now
              Power applied via standard for FFCP cables is working OK
              I can connect to WiFi via Big Dipper when 24v is applied OK
              (though you can't use USB 5v and 24v interchangeably to configure WiFi, because you have to move the selector physically. So if you want only to connect to USB and configure WiFi you have to move selector. If you want to use 24v and have a working WiFI you have to return the selector to the default state)
              XYZ motors are moving when command is sent via WiFi OK
              XYZ endstops are flashing when triggered OK
              (though I don't know how to check whether endstops are working as expected before I try to home axis)

              Next steps
              check fans
              check thermistors
              check heaters
              Then close the case and try to configure the print

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              • Inlinebrotherundefined
                Inlinebrother
                last edited by Inlinebrother

                Next update:
                Extruder Fans OK
                Cooling Fan (with ability to control air flow from 0 to 100) OK

                Next steps:
                Forgot to crimp board fan cable TODO
                Fix wrong wiring of the Bed thermistor TODO
                Have to recrimp x axis motor cable TODO
                check thermocouples are working when there are no config errors TODO
                and heaters
                (found a thread about bed thermistor here - https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/7285/flashforge-creator-pro-heat-bed-wiring/2)

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                • Inlinebrotherundefined
                  Inlinebrother
                  last edited by Inlinebrother

                  Next update:

                  • By using the thread above now I see the bed temperature via a thermistor OK
                    used first two cables out of 4 (white and green in my case)

                  • Config from this thread helped me to turn on thermocouples (though i had to downgrade them to thermocouple-max31855 from thermocouple-max31856) OK

                  • board fan working OK

                  • extruder heaters are working OK

                  • bed heater is not working, I'll check what's wrong next time TODO

                  • Also I need to close the printer TODO

                  • LEDs are not working and I don't think I am going to fix that in the nearest future NOT_HAPPENING
                    I might replace the screen with the one from FYSETC TODO

                  • Fix config issues that i can come across TODO

                  • And finally print something TODO

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                  • Inlinebrotherundefined
                    Inlinebrother
                    last edited by

                    Hi, everyone, if you are reading this, then I....

                    Finally finished assembling the printer after the upgrade)

                    • I managed to home all axes OK

                    • Added a fysetc 12864 screen, though it needs an adapter OK
                      I used the menu made by jadonmmiller
                      But I'll have to update the UI because this one is only for 1 extruder setup

                    • Drivers are doing their job, I hear almost only fans) OK

                    • Figured out why the bed was not heating, it has a separate power input, and I had to buy another cable and crimp it OK

                    • For now I skipped BLTouch sensor installation, because I don't want to make it even harder.

                    • I started to configure the printer
                      And it seems that I'll have to read Gcode docs and learn Gcode, because it is everywhere
                      From screen menu and configs to printing instructions

                    • At the moment I have to find Gcodes to load/unload filaments and check that extruders directions are correct TODO

                    • Then I'll have to configure Cura TODO

                    Somehow I used the printer without Gcode knowledge before that)

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                    • Inlinebrotherundefined
                      Inlinebrother
                      last edited by Inlinebrother

                      So I found gcodes in docs to load/unload filament
                      Then I had to change some configs for extruder drives
                      And now I got a problem with thermocouple board because there is interference from stepper motor cabels

                      It seems that Flashforge fixed that issue in their version of mighty board, because i did nothing to the cables other than changing connectors

                      I have a 0.2v daughterboard and I think in 0.2v there was no capacitor
                      according to this thread adding a capacitor helps https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/1270/thermocouple-issues/10

                      @dc42 Hi, sorry to tag you, but can you please confirm that in the daughterboard 0.2v there was no capacitor?
                      As far as I see from the picture of the daughterboard on the official site, the new version has some extra components on top of it
                      mine


                      from the site

                      And is the process the same for the 0.2v board?

                      • Take 4 capacitors
                      • find a ground plate
                      • solder capacitors to each pin and to the ground
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                      • Inlinebrotherundefined
                        Inlinebrother
                        last edited by

                        Ok, I found your answer for the same question here
                        So i think one of the ways to fix that is to get the wire out of the casing

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                        • Inlinebrotherundefined
                          Inlinebrother
                          last edited by Inlinebrother

                          But moving the thermocouple wires away from the other wires didn't help
                          Only one of the thermocouples for the right extruder now is working correctly, but i can't say exactly what helped, maybe i crimped it better. Although it still can catch the interference from the other thermocouple, even if using it alone does not provoke interference
                          They are still near the drives on the head, and i think that is where they pick this interference

                          I wonder if using a thermistor will help
                          Flexion extruder allows to install it, and the board has ports for temp sensors

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                          • Inlinebrotherundefined
                            Inlinebrother
                            last edited by

                            recrimping didn't help, i think I'll have to go with the thermistor
                            that way i will not need a daughterboard and i guess that might help

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                            • Inlinebrotherundefined
                              Inlinebrother
                              last edited by Inlinebrother

                              Captain's log
                              Installed and configured thermistor NTC 3950
                              Now I don't see 2000 degrees when extruding or retracting filament

                              But my printer shuts down in a minute after that and then it is trying to restart over and over again, until I turn it off and turn on again

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                              • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                Inlinebrother
                                last edited by

                                It seems that @dc42 helped me again, even without saying a thing)
                                I found my answer here https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/15897/duet-wifi-resetting-part-way-through-prints/30
                                I disabled endstops, and it seems that the problem is solved
                                Though I need to wire the endstops properly

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                                • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                  Inlinebrother @oliof
                                  last edited by

                                  @oliof I think you are right, I didn't understand you at first) thank you)

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                                  • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                    Inlinebrother
                                    last edited by

                                    Sooo, I did recrimp endstops
                                    Thought now it is ready to go,
                                    connected Cura via plugin OK
                                    Started to heat the bed
                                    After the extruder fan started to work the printer started to restart again
                                    Then in a few minutes, after the printer cooled down, I thought I'll try to change some settings for fans
                                    But the printer began to restart in an idle mode. I did nothing, and it started its disco.

                                    Now I don't know what can be the problem
                                    Maybe something should be done to a board fan frequency, that is the only thing working when the printer is idle

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                                    • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                      Inlinebrother
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok I started from scratch
                                      I think the problem was with the board loosely fixed, it might have touched some parts of the case
                                      I also checked all the wires and reinserted them, trying to fix them as tight as possible
                                      Now it seem to work

                                      Started the test print, I'll write an update after that
                                      For now I hear the sound of silence and it is great
                                      I'll have to change the coordinates though, the print started on the corner of the build plate

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                                      • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                        Inlinebrother
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                                        • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                          Inlinebrother
                                          last edited by

                                          Finally it is working
                                          Though I need to adjust tool offsets a bit more
                                          And I also had to change the cooling fan number in cura settings for every extruder to the pin number of the fan (in my case fan #3)
                                          And I need to try dual extruder printing

                                          Thank you all who helped me achieve this.
                                          Hope my story will help somebody)

                                          I'll publish my design for the Big Dipper holder and my configs a bit later.

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                                          • Inlinebrotherundefined
                                            Inlinebrother
                                            last edited by

                                            Here is my design for the holder
                                            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6781025/files

                                            Configs have to be refined, so I will post them some time in the future

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