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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @gloomyandy
      last edited by

      @droftarts
      So now I changed White to signal and Shield is now 5V

      PXL_20240927_114529176.jpg

      So now we are getting closer 🙂

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @tecno
        last edited by droftarts

        @tecno Okay, so now use:

        M950 E0 C"led" Q3000000 T1
        

        ie change T2 to T1

        I expect that bare 'earth' wire had too much capacitance to transmit the signal. Now you're using the bare wire for 5V, so easier to create a short. Same goes for using that wire for GND. I'd replace the wiring with individually insulated wires, ie 3-core wire. If you don't have 3-core wire, use left-over stepper motor wire, that's about the right gauge for LEDs.

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @droftarts
          last edited by tecno

          @droftarts

          Works in R255 and P can be set = Nice.

          Now to play with new colors

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          • droftartsundefined
            droftarts administrators @tecno
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            @tecno Do all 8 LEDs work now, and are controllable?

            RGB LEDs aren't the best for white light. You'll have to play around with the levels in M150 for R, U (for green) and B, and brightness (P) to get close to what you want. If it's mostly white you want, you probably should have got RGBW, or just white, LEDs.

            Ian

            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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            • tecnoundefined
              tecno @droftarts
              last edited by

              @droftarts
              Yes all 8 work

              I am aware that I can not get perfect greyscale with RGB. Hard to find 8leds RGBW that fits.

              Thank you very much for your kind help Ian, I owe you a pint or two 🙂

              I am sure more questions will arise

              Cheers
              Bengt

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                tecno @tecno
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                PXL_20240927_123456444.jpg

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                  tecno @tecno
                  last edited by tecno

                  @droftarts

                  @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Issue solved:

                  ;***Outputs
                  M950 P0 C"out0" ; Q500 ;#1 Nozzle Vacuum
                  M950 P1 C"out1" ; Q500 ;#2 Nozzle Vacuum
                  M950 P2 C"out2" ; Q500 ;Drag PIN Actuator
                  M950 P3 C"out3" ; Q500 ;ENA Nozzle 1/2 Up
                  M950 P4 C"out4" ; Q500 ;Xross cursor
                  M950 P5 C"out5" ; Q500 ;LED light x
                  M950 P6 C"out6" ; Q500 ;Vacuum power

                  Have problem with Outputs 4 and 5. can not switch off. Any advice is appreciated-

                  Off=1.4V On=1.3V all other Off 24V On 0V

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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @tecno
                    last edited by

                    @droftarts

                    Is this something we can get working?

                    There is a cable with RX/TX/GND for the old controller. Two chips for vacuum measurement.
                    PXL_20240930_073401435.jpg

                    Cheers
                    Bengt

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                    • droftartsundefined
                      droftarts administrators @tecno
                      last edited by

                      @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Issue solved:

                      Have problem with Outputs 4 and 5. can not switch off. Any advice is appreciated-
                      Off=1.4V On=1.3V all other Off 24V On 0V

                      Was this working before? Have you fixed it? Sounds more like a wiring problem.

                      Is this something we can get working?
                      There is a cable with RX/TX/GND for the old controller. Two chips for vacuum measurement.

                      What chip is it? You need to find out what signal it outputs, and what signal it expects. If it outputs an analog signal of 0-3.3V, you can probably set it up as an analogue sensor, or a digital sensor if it outputs an on/off signal.

                      Ian

                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @droftarts
                        last edited by

                        @droftarts
                        Hello Ian,

                        These two worked OK with original controller, never got them working with 6XD.
                        Wires have been checked, but I have to measure continiuity once moore on out 4 and 5.

                        Have to dismanlte the board and see what is on it.

                        Bengt

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @tecno
                          last edited by

                          @tecno As they are both LEDs, are you supplying the 24V to the correct side of the LED? If not, the LEDs act as a diode, and don't let the power through.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @droftarts
                            last edited by

                            @droftarts
                            Cable is OK
                            Original connected to PSU, 12V for Cross and 5V for LED Light

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                              tecno @tecno
                              last edited by

                              @droftarts

                              Only way to turn outputs OFF is to remove cables

                              PXL_20240930_125444753.jpg

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                                tecno @tecno
                                last edited by

                                @droftarts

                                Here pics of vacuum sensors = no labels

                                PXL_20240930_124533812.jpg PXL_20240930_124257385.jpg

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @tecno
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42 @droftarts

                                  Regarding outputs 3 4 5 and 8 = not working at all!

                                  Done following Change
                                  ;***Outputs
                                  M950 P0 C"out0" ; Q500 ;#1 Nozzle Vacuum
                                  M950 P1 C"out1" ; Q500 ;#2 Nozzle Vacuum
                                  M950 P2 C"out2" ; Q500 ;Drag PIN Actuator
                                  M950 P3 C"out3" ; Q500 ;ENA Nozzle 1/2 Up
                                  ;M950 P4 C"out4" ; Q500 ;Xross cursor
                                  ;M950 P5 C"out5" ; Q250 ;LED light
                                  M950 P6 C"out6" ; Q500 ;Vacuum power
                                  M950 P7 C"out7" ; Q500 ;Xross cursor
                                  M950 P8 C"out8" ; Q500 ;LED light

                                  Tested first to move #4 to #7 and voila the xross cursor works with on and off.
                                  So next #5 to #8 = NO GO
                                  Changed #8 to #7 and the LED Lighting works.

                                  So now it is time to get this 6XD on WARANTY A S A P

                                  Cheers
                                  Bengt

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @tecno
                                    last edited by

                                    @tecno I suggest that you test the outputs on the actual 6XD. In all the previous 100+ messages in this thread, the fault has NOT been the 6XD, it's been the wiring. I assume that you have tested this by moving connections on this switching board, rather than testing the outputs on the 6XD:

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                                    There's a ribbon cable between the 6XD and that board. Have you tested the continuity of that? Have you tested that there are no failed components on that expansion board on these lines? After all the previous issues, I very much doubt it's an issue with the 6XD.

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                      tecno @droftarts
                                      last edited by tecno

                                      @droftarts said in 6XD I/O >> Issue solved:

                                      rather than testing the outputs on the 6XD:

                                      All testing is on 6XD

                                      The picture was to clarify port 4/5 to be the only way to switch off 4 and 5 loosening cables!

                                      Pls explain why #8 works on #7 if it is as you claim to cabling issue!

                                      Far too many issues points to a faulty 6XD.
                                      Been setting up 4 machines with Mini 5+ and this one is giving one more gray hair!

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                                        droftarts administrators @tecno
                                        last edited by

                                        @tecno Every issue so far has been fixed, and has not been the fault of the 6XD. As for grey hair, you've given me plenty.

                                        Have you checked the macros or commands you use to turn the outputs on and off refer to the correct pin?

                                        I need to see how you're testing the outputs on the 6XD. Ideally, with a multimeter, test for voltage between the V_OUTLC# pin and the out#- pin, of each output. You should get no voltage when it's turned off, and should read the voltage of the V_OUTLC# when turned on. Repeat for all out# pins.

                                        c629310e-5686-4f09-b75a-7633e6053d6a-image.png

                                        You should do this from a fresh restart, so the config.g is applied. Note that you currently have out4 and out5 commented out.

                                        If there is an output that is not working, please post the full config.g that you used to test, and post the macros or commands you are using to turn these on and off. Also post a good image of the area around the fan outputs, which should show if any of the MOSFETs that control the out#- pins has been damaged.

                                        Ian

                                        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @droftarts
                                          last edited by

                                          @droftarts
                                          Nice with grey hair 😉

                                          Yes all macros checked as regards command and pin#
                                          M42 P3 S0
                                          M42 P3 S1

                                          M42 P4 S0
                                          M42 P4 S1

                                          M42 P5 S0
                                          M42 P5 S1

                                          Tested with DMM and 3-5 works as you describe BUT connecting LED Light on say #5 it is permanently ON so as I see it there is something wrong. Connecting the LED Light to output 7 or 8 I can switch on and off.

                                          Cheers
                                          Bengt

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                                            droftarts administrators @tecno
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                                            @tecno Those results don't make much sense. You said out4- and out5- don't switch off, and out8- doesn't switch on.

                                            I think you're saying the results of your testing are:

                                            • Multimeter test: out3-, out4-, out5- test correctly. Do out1-, out2-, out6-, out7-, out8- respond correctly? I thought out8 was the problem?
                                            • LED test: out5- is permanently on. out7- and out8- test correctly. What about the rest? How are you connecting the LED? Between a V+ pin (whatever voltage the LED takes) and the out#- pin?

                                            So out5- is the only one you tested with both tests? And it works okay with the multimeter test, but not the LED test?

                                            Please post a picture of how you're testing with the LED, on a pin that's not working, so I can see the setup.
                                            Please post your config.g, and all the macros you are using to turn the outputs on and off.

                                            Ian

                                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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