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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @tecno
      last edited by

      @droftarts

      Is this something we can get working?

      There is a cable with RX/TX/GND for the old controller. Two chips for vacuum measurement.
      PXL_20240930_073401435.jpg

      Cheers
      Bengt

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @tecno
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        @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Issue solved:

        Have problem with Outputs 4 and 5. can not switch off. Any advice is appreciated-
        Off=1.4V On=1.3V all other Off 24V On 0V

        Was this working before? Have you fixed it? Sounds more like a wiring problem.

        Is this something we can get working?
        There is a cable with RX/TX/GND for the old controller. Two chips for vacuum measurement.

        What chip is it? You need to find out what signal it outputs, and what signal it expects. If it outputs an analog signal of 0-3.3V, you can probably set it up as an analogue sensor, or a digital sensor if it outputs an on/off signal.

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @droftarts
          last edited by

          @droftarts
          Hello Ian,

          These two worked OK with original controller, never got them working with 6XD.
          Wires have been checked, but I have to measure continiuity once moore on out 4 and 5.

          Have to dismanlte the board and see what is on it.

          Bengt

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          • droftartsundefined
            droftarts administrators @tecno
            last edited by

            @tecno As they are both LEDs, are you supplying the 24V to the correct side of the LED? If not, the LEDs act as a diode, and don't let the power through.

            Ian

            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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            • tecnoundefined
              tecno @droftarts
              last edited by

              @droftarts
              Cable is OK
              Original connected to PSU, 12V for Cross and 5V for LED Light

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @tecno
                last edited by

                @droftarts

                Only way to turn outputs OFF is to remove cables

                PXL_20240930_125444753.jpg

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                • tecnoundefined
                  tecno @tecno
                  last edited by

                  @droftarts

                  Here pics of vacuum sensors = no labels

                  PXL_20240930_124533812.jpg PXL_20240930_124257385.jpg

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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @tecno
                    last edited by

                    @dc42 @droftarts

                    Regarding outputs 3 4 5 and 8 = not working at all!

                    Done following Change
                    ;***Outputs
                    M950 P0 C"out0" ; Q500 ;#1 Nozzle Vacuum
                    M950 P1 C"out1" ; Q500 ;#2 Nozzle Vacuum
                    M950 P2 C"out2" ; Q500 ;Drag PIN Actuator
                    M950 P3 C"out3" ; Q500 ;ENA Nozzle 1/2 Up
                    ;M950 P4 C"out4" ; Q500 ;Xross cursor
                    ;M950 P5 C"out5" ; Q250 ;LED light
                    M950 P6 C"out6" ; Q500 ;Vacuum power
                    M950 P7 C"out7" ; Q500 ;Xross cursor
                    M950 P8 C"out8" ; Q500 ;LED light

                    Tested first to move #4 to #7 and voila the xross cursor works with on and off.
                    So next #5 to #8 = NO GO
                    Changed #8 to #7 and the LED Lighting works.

                    So now it is time to get this 6XD on WARANTY A S A P

                    Cheers
                    Bengt

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                    • droftartsundefined
                      droftarts administrators @tecno
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                      @tecno I suggest that you test the outputs on the actual 6XD. In all the previous 100+ messages in this thread, the fault has NOT been the 6XD, it's been the wiring. I assume that you have tested this by moving connections on this switching board, rather than testing the outputs on the 6XD:

                      alt text

                      There's a ribbon cable between the 6XD and that board. Have you tested the continuity of that? Have you tested that there are no failed components on that expansion board on these lines? After all the previous issues, I very much doubt it's an issue with the 6XD.

                      Ian

                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @droftarts
                        last edited by tecno

                        @droftarts said in 6XD I/O >> Issue solved:

                        rather than testing the outputs on the 6XD:

                        All testing is on 6XD

                        The picture was to clarify port 4/5 to be the only way to switch off 4 and 5 loosening cables!

                        Pls explain why #8 works on #7 if it is as you claim to cabling issue!

                        Far too many issues points to a faulty 6XD.
                        Been setting up 4 machines with Mini 5+ and this one is giving one more gray hair!

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @tecno
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                          @tecno Every issue so far has been fixed, and has not been the fault of the 6XD. As for grey hair, you've given me plenty.

                          Have you checked the macros or commands you use to turn the outputs on and off refer to the correct pin?

                          I need to see how you're testing the outputs on the 6XD. Ideally, with a multimeter, test for voltage between the V_OUTLC# pin and the out#- pin, of each output. You should get no voltage when it's turned off, and should read the voltage of the V_OUTLC# when turned on. Repeat for all out# pins.

                          c629310e-5686-4f09-b75a-7633e6053d6a-image.png

                          You should do this from a fresh restart, so the config.g is applied. Note that you currently have out4 and out5 commented out.

                          If there is an output that is not working, please post the full config.g that you used to test, and post the macros or commands you are using to turn these on and off. Also post a good image of the area around the fan outputs, which should show if any of the MOSFETs that control the out#- pins has been damaged.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @droftarts
                            last edited by

                            @droftarts
                            Nice with grey hair 😉

                            Yes all macros checked as regards command and pin#
                            M42 P3 S0
                            M42 P3 S1

                            M42 P4 S0
                            M42 P4 S1

                            M42 P5 S0
                            M42 P5 S1

                            Tested with DMM and 3-5 works as you describe BUT connecting LED Light on say #5 it is permanently ON so as I see it there is something wrong. Connecting the LED Light to output 7 or 8 I can switch on and off.

                            Cheers
                            Bengt

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                            • droftartsundefined
                              droftarts administrators @tecno
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                              @tecno Those results don't make much sense. You said out4- and out5- don't switch off, and out8- doesn't switch on.

                              I think you're saying the results of your testing are:

                              • Multimeter test: out3-, out4-, out5- test correctly. Do out1-, out2-, out6-, out7-, out8- respond correctly? I thought out8 was the problem?
                              • LED test: out5- is permanently on. out7- and out8- test correctly. What about the rest? How are you connecting the LED? Between a V+ pin (whatever voltage the LED takes) and the out#- pin?

                              So out5- is the only one you tested with both tests? And it works okay with the multimeter test, but not the LED test?

                              Please post a picture of how you're testing with the LED, on a pin that's not working, so I can see the setup.
                              Please post your config.g, and all the macros you are using to turn the outputs on and off.

                              Ian

                              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                              • tecnoundefined
                                tecno @droftarts
                                last edited by droftarts

                                @droftarts

                                Outputs 0 1 2 6 7 8 OK
                                Outputs 3 4 5 the Led light is not controllable and always on.
                                config.txt macroszip.txt

                                PXL_20241001_154645609.jpg PXL_20241001_154303359.jpg

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @tecno
                                  last edited by droftarts

                                  @tecno So in the first picture the LED doesn't work, connected to out3-, but in the second picture it does work, connected to out8-?

                                  And you're not directly connecting an LED, you're still using the breakout board?

                                  Ian

                                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @droftarts
                                    last edited by

                                    @droftarts

                                    3 4 5 behave the same. Does this anything with V_OUTLC1 and V_OUTLC2 to do?

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @droftarts
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                                      @droftarts

                                      Not a breakout board.

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                                      • tecnoundefined
                                        tecno @tecno
                                        last edited by tecno

                                        @tecno

                                        Does this anything with V_OUTLC1 and V_OUTLC2 to do?

                                        YES IT DOES !!

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @tecno
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42 @droftarts

                                          Possible to concentrate on VACUUM sensors?

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                                          • droftartsundefined
                                            droftarts administrators @tecno
                                            last edited by

                                            @tecno said in 6XD I/O >> Issue solved:

                                            Does this anything with V_OUTLC1 and V_OUTLC2 to do?

                                            YES IT DOES !!

                                            Care to explain? I didn't even think you were using the V_OUTLC pins on the fan headers.

                                            So they are all working now?

                                            Ian

                                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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