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    Bowden Wiring - Choice of cable?

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    • pro3dundefined
      pro3d
      last edited by

      I want a simple solution - A multi lead cable that can handle moving around a lot (yes using strain relief)

      I am not talking about the heater cable as this is a silicone I will continue to use

      I have been through a lot of iterations and currently are running a CAT6 ethernet cable with 8 wires of awg26? or is it 24.. dont remember

      The CAT 5 was suggested but as this was not in stock I went with CAT6 and it is just to stiff for my liking - Seems like a accident waiting to happen and I also find the wires one too thin

      My previous solution was various 2,3 and 4/5 lead cables of different sizes ranging from awg 26 to awg 20... Not a clean solution

      Any good solutions I have missed out there?
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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman
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        Try a Google search for "drag chain cable", e.g. Igus "chainflex".

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        • timcurtis67undefined
          timcurtis67
          last edited by

          If you use Cat5 or 6 cable, make sure it is a patch cable. They have copper strand wires instead of solid strand wires. The solid ones aren't made for flexing around and will break over time.

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          • dc42undefined
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            last edited by dc42

            The flat Cat6 cables seem to be very flexible, but I don't know how well they would last or what current they can take.

            Whatever cabling solution you adopt, I recommend you use separate cables for 12V/24V wiring and 3.3V/5V wiring.

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            • pro3dundefined
              pro3d
              last edited by

              Seperating makes sense. I have found some flexible controller cables I will try for this purpose thanks to @deckingman

              Easy when you know what to look for 🙂

              I ordered some to test in 7 pin AWG23 - I can have one for 12V-24V in one vertical beam and one for 5/3,3 in the other vertical beam

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
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                last edited by T3P3Tony

                @pro3d worth ensuring they are in totally separate bundles. @DjDemonD can let you know what happens if there is a short inside the cables 😕

                @timcurtis67 I have had reports that even patch cables work harden and cause issues over time. They are designed to move about a bit, but not 1000s of moves a day.

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                • dragonnundefined
                  dragonn
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                  FFC cable + flat spring , works perfectly and looks nice.

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                  • DjDemonDundefined
                    DjDemonD
                    last edited by

                    That flat cable looks great.

                    Network cables are problematic they do work harden and the insulation fails, probably in my case exacerbated by having slightly too tight a bend at one point in the cable, but a short from hotend heater (was using 6 cores for heater) and 5v fan kills 2 duetwifi and 2 paneldue boards. Second one shouldn't have gone, but I presumed the first one was a dropped nut which caused the short and installed a second board. That'll learn me.

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                    • Knaudlerundefined
                      Knaudler
                      last edited by Knaudler

                      Igus:
                      chainflex Steuerleitung CF9.02.07
                      2,60 - Igus sells to privat customer and good service
                      you can get a lot of test samples

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                      • brunofportoundefined
                        brunofporto
                        last edited by

                        Look for cables meant for professional audio. They are sturdy, flexible and made to receive bad treatment. You will find at many gauges and wire count.

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