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    • ephemerisundefined
      ephemeris
      last edited by ephemeris

      This is a low probability but it's important to remember the cause of problems aren't always the obvious ones. My BigBox shut down multiple times for no obvious reason and finally turned of and stayed off.

      I assumed it was the power supply. I ruled out a blown fuse and replaced the power supply, but it was still dead.

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      As you can see the power switch failed, melted the plastic casing, and burned the tinning off the copper wire that goes to the switch terminal blade.

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      • TRUundefined
        TRU
        last edited by TRU

        The board gets power. I can measure the voltage at the hotend heater connection. The problem occurs when more components are switched on.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
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          last edited by

          Do you see any visible damage to the board or connectors? Melting scorch marks? Loose fittings?

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            Check that the screws in the VIN terminal block are still tight.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • TRUundefined
              TRU
              last edited by TRU

              i had to replace the Main terminal block, therefore the solderingspots are not pristine anymore.
              I did some test cycles the last hours.(each of the 4 scenarios were tested 20 times) it is always the same:

              1. Running all three steppers (homing, calibration, random moves) - no problem

              2. Heating the hotend alone - no problem

              3. Hotend with steppers - instant powerloss (short flicker of LEDs and webinterface disconnect)

              4. Activation of heatbed - always as with Hotend and steppers

              (while doing this I monitored the voltage between VIN & GND - there was no voltage drop whatsoever)

              So I can rule out a loose connection.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @TRU
                last edited by

                @tru said in Powerloss/reset when current exceeds 6A:

                i had to replace the Main terminal block, therefore the solderingspots are not pristine anymore.
                I did some test cycles the last hours.(each of the 4 scenarios were tested 20 times) it is always the same:

                1. Running all three steppers (homing, calibration, random moves) - no problem

                2. Heating the hotend alone - no problem

                3. Hotend with steppers - instant powerloss (short flicker of LEDs and webinterface disconnect)

                4. Activation of heatbed - always as with Hotend and steppers

                (while doing this I monitored the voltage between VIN & GND - there was no voltage drop whatsoever)

                So I can rule out a loose connection.

                It sounds extremely like a bad connection to me. Where did you measure the voltage between VIN and ground?

                Have you tried monitoring the VIN voltage reported by the Duet, when you run the stepper motors and when you heat the hot end?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • TRUundefined
                  TRU
                  last edited by

                  Good evening,

                  the duet wifi stopped working completely, so I removed the terminal block and found smoldered or burned spots beneath it and on the block itself. I have ordered a new one. Additionally I would like to check the fuses, but i cant find them or their values in the wiki.

                  Regards
                  TRU

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @TRU
                    last edited by

                    @tru said in Powerloss/reset when current exceeds 6A:

                    Additionally I would like to check the fuses, but i cant find them or their values in the wiki.

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • TRUundefined
                      TRU
                      last edited by

                      Good evening,

                      I changed the terminal block and the problem is still there.
                      As soon as at least one heating device gets activated the board behaves as if the reset button has been pushed.

                      I can still print (without heatbed), when I power the hotend directly with a PSU and a mosfet (IRF520) with the signal from the E0 terminal block.

                      Is it possible to send in the board for a cost estimate/repair?

                      Regards
                      TRU

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        How old is your Duet, and which country are you in?

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                        • TRUundefined
                          TRU
                          last edited by TRU

                          Good evening,

                          It is a duet wifi (should be v1.03), which I bought 11 month ago at makerdise.
                          I am from germany.

                          Regards
                          TRU

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @TRU
                            last edited by

                            I have emailed you.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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