Changing TMC2660 into TMC2130

Stan

Hey, i'm looking to upgrade my current printers motherboard into a duet (ethernet) board but id like to have the newer TMC2130 stepper drivers installed... Would it be possible to make one for me(Duet)? Or should i just buy the board and the drivers and change them out myself?

briskspirit

@stan You won't be able to use TMC2130 with full potential (silentchop and etc) as they has different communication bus. Better look into Duet Maesto.

Martin1454

would be better to use an external stepper driver:
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_external_stepper_motor_drivers

dc42

What are you hoping to get from the TMC2130 that the TMC2660 doesn't provide?

Stan

I am mostly looking into the silent/stealth chop (seen and heard it on a prusa) since my printer is installed in the office and makes a lot of noise.. @dc42

Stan

@briskspirit hmmm... Okay thanks.. was worth a shot

brunofporto

@stan If what you are looking is silence you certainly have it with the TMC2660.

Mine I can only hear the fans and I need to rise sometimes to check (the printer is behind my computer displays) if the printer is really working

Stan

@brunofporto oh okay thanks man! What does the stealth chop do then? If the TMC2660 is already that silent?

dc42

@stan said in Changing TMC2660 into TMC2130:

I am mostly looking into the silent/stealth chop (seen and heard it on a prusa) since my printer is installed in the office and makes a lot of noise.. @dc42

Most users of the Duet find that the TMC2660 drivers make their motors silent or nearly silent. A few users with high inductance motors find that they need to tweak the chopper control settings to avoid noise at standstill. The interpolation to x256 microstepping is responsible for the noise reduction.

Stealthchop mode on the TMC2130 is reported to be useless for 3D printing because it causes problems at high speeds. Stealthchop 2 on the TMC2224 used on the Duet Maestro is better, but you still have to switch them to spread cycle at high speeds.

Stan

@dc42 okay thanks a lot man! I think i am just going to buy the ethernet then? Not really looking into tweaking a whole lot of settings

dc42

@stan said in Changing TMC2660 into TMC2130:

@dc42 okay thanks a lot man! I think i am just going to buy the ethernet then? Not really looking into tweaking a whole lot of settings

What motors do you have? If they are low-current high-inductance motors then the Maestro may be more suitable, unless you need stall detection.

Stan

@dc42 it's a dual extruder printer with 5 nema 17 steppers if i'm not mistaken

dc42

@stan said in Changing TMC2660 into TMC2130:

@dc42 it's a dual extruder printer with 5 nema 17 steppers if i'm not mistaken

OK, but do you know the specification or model number of the stepper motors?

Stan

@dc42 it's a 48mm stepper, thats all i know sorry... It's a leapfrog Creatr HS and i bought it whole.

dc42

@stan said in Changing TMC2660 into TMC2130:

@dc42 it's a 48mm stepper, thats all i know sorry... It's a leapfrog Creatr HS and i bought it whole.

Do the stepper motors have labels on them?

Stan

@dc42 no sorry they pulled off all the stickers from the motors.. i think they're just the nema 17's from most printers?

dragonn

@stan nema 17 is only a form factor. They are many, many different motors with are nema 17.

Stan

@dragonn oh ok thanks! Only info i can get atm is from their site and it says "nema 17 (48mm)"

briskspirit

@stan Look closer, there should be a laser engraved model number maybe on the back

dc42

If there really isn't a sticker, measure the motor length (48mm?) and the resistance of one winding. Then look at https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-stepper-motor for a motor with the same length and similar phase resistance. That will give you a good indication of the rated current.

Some printers use one type of motor on the X and Y axes and a different type for the Z axis, especially if they have two Z motors.