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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @gnydick
      last edited by

      @gnydick Are those 2 points indicated in the picture the only areas where the problem exists? If the problem is as you describe, then surely it would affect the entire print. I'd be more inclined to suspect a problem with the gcode of the model itself.

      Ian
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      • garyd9undefined
        garyd9 @gnydick
        last edited by

        @gnydick If you turn off pressure advance while printing the exact same gcode file, the problem doesn't appear?

        "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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        • Edgars Batnaundefined
          Edgars Batna
          last edited by Edgars Batna

          What PA value are you using? I found that if I don't crank the extruder jerk all the way down from 4000 to 500 with a PA value of 0.4 or higher, then during some moves there were such "Insane Extruder Step Variations" © that the steppers started losing steps and I'd get holes or overextrusion. The Python script does not test for this and most simplistic models ran fine, but as soon as curves and many small perimeters went into play it just went to hell.

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          • gnydickundefined
            gnydick @Edgars Batna
            last edited by

            @edgars-batna just .1

            I wasn't getting any sort of skipping. I have direct extrusion, so for me PA is really only about changes in speed, and not also making up for bowden latency.

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            • gnydickundefined
              gnydick @deckingman
              last edited by

              @deckingman they're all over, but my seems are not always in the same place, so I'd have to rotate the printed model to show you all of them.

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              • gnydickundefined
                gnydick @garyd9
                last edited by

                @garyd9 I'll try that and let you know

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                • gnydickundefined
                  gnydick @gnydick
                  last edited by

                  @garyd9 I tried it and they're still there. That's odd because it's only a couple mm of retraction.

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                  • garyd9undefined
                    garyd9 @gnydick
                    last edited by garyd9

                    @gnydick said in Pressure advance possibly not working correctly:

                    @garyd9 I tried it and they're still there. That's odd because it's only a couple mm of retraction.

                    If you turn off pressure advance and the problem still exists, it strongly suggests that pressure advance isn't the issue. (Are you 100% certain that pressure advance wasn't enabled? The best way to be sure is to run M572 from the gcode console while a print is running and verify that the returned value is 0.00.)

                    "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                    • burtoogleundefined
                      burtoogle
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                      Hi @gnydick , could you please post some gcode that has this problem. Thanks.

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                      • Wyvernundefined
                        Wyvern
                        last edited by

                        Layers look thicc, .8 nozzle?

                        Every machine I've used with a .8 or larger exhibits this issue.

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                        • gnydickundefined
                          gnydick @Wyvern
                          last edited by

                          @wyvern yes, .8 nozzle. That could be it.

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                          • Wyvernundefined
                            Wyvern @gnydick
                            last edited by

                            @gnydick I don't know how to fix it or what it is, but it shows on tight curves.
                            .6 is usable for general use, I use .8 for simple geometry parts that need to be strong.

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                            • Martin1454undefined
                              Martin1454
                              last edited by

                              @Wyvern @gnydick Mabye is it too thin walls for normal 0.8 print - Depending on the slicer, make sure to have "thin walls" or whatever it is called in your slicer to on -

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                              • gnydickundefined
                                gnydick @Martin1454
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                                @martin1454 thanks

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