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    • Alex9779undefined
      Alex9779
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      Well you could make long holes on one X carriage but that you be a pain to level I think. Best would be to decouple the extruder mounting from the bearing mounts with a part between which can then be height adjusted…

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators
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        The design could be modified. one simple way that might work is to make the extruder motor mounting hole elongated. Then start with them slightly loose and rest both hot end tips on the bed in the centre (one the bed is levelled for the X axis). then tighten up ensuring the tips remain incontact with the bed. The one issue with this is one of the titan mounting screws is obscured by the hotend so tighten 3, then remove hotend and tighten last one, replace hotend, and test.

        A complete carriage redesign, that allowed for quick swapping of tools would be good anyway so maybe it could be incorporated into that.

        www.duet3d.com

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators
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          In fact you would only need to do this for one carriage, which I will do and report how it works

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          • Alex9779undefined
            Alex9779
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            Yeah it is doable that way, but will hate it ;). Mounting the Titan and have no clicking sound when retracting is not easy and if you wanna move it up and down to level it against another hotend by +-0.05mm… Well I will hate it...
            But printing multiple copies has no priority for me so I will go with the fixed ones first, I want support prints...

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators
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              Yes its a total hack but It will allow me to get the printer to the point I can print two objects at once - the full carriage redesign will take time.

              www.duet3d.com

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              • iDeveloundefined
                iDevelo
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                Oh so we have the ability to mirror the print and use both extruders at the same time?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  Yes, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Configuring_multiple_independent_X-carriages_on_a_Cartesian_printer#Miscellaneous.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • iDeveloundefined
                    iDevelo
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                    Awesome! I'll make sure both are the same height then 🙂

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
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                      I have a put preliminary build of firmware 1.16 beta 4 at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19369680/DuetWiFiFirmware.bin. This supports X axis mapping. So you should now be able to do dual material and mirrored prints on IDEX machines.

                      Some notes:

                      1. I have updated the sample tool change files on the wiki page. In particular, you should not use the G1 R2 commands in the tpost#.g files that I had in the earlier version.

                      2. The reported coordinates are raw, which is deliberate. So the X coordinate shown by DWC is that of the physical X axis regardless of any mapping. Same with M114. If you have a PanelDue and you put the latest 1.15a firmware on it, you can see the U coordinate as well. Eventually, DWC will show the U coordinate as well.

                      3. Make sure that the commands in your homing files that cause the head to back off a few mm after dong course homing have the S2 modifier on them, so that X mapping will not occur on those commands. Similarly, any command you have in homez.h or homeall.g to put the head in a particular position prior to doing a G30 probe should have the S2 modifier to ensure that you put the X carriage there and not the U carriage.

                      4. I suspect there will be a few glitches, such as additional places where X mapping needs to be done. Most likely they will occur when changing between tools. This is something that I can't test fully, because I don't have a dual carriage printer yet.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • iDeveloundefined
                        iDevelo
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                        Ok I'll keep you updated with my progress and report any issues.

                        I should get some movement this weekend but I doubt I'll beable to print as I'm waiting for a bondtech extruder to arrive. My main aim is to get X/U complete and test homing and bed leveling.

                        I have plenty of time next week to complete this.

                        Thanks for your hard work 🙂

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators
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                          I have mirrored printing working on by BigBox IDEX system:

                          I made a few changes to the Wiki so if you are working on this make sure you are using the most up to date examples from there. My configuration does not differ from the example on the wiki other than for steps/mm dimensions and other printer specific stuff.

                          www.duet3d.com

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                          • iDeveloundefined
                            iDevelo
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                            @T3P3Tony:

                            I have mirrored printing working on by BigBox IDEX system:

                            https://s9.postimg.org/4rrky828f/Big_Box_IDEX_with_Duet_Wifi.jpg

                            I made a few changes to the Wiki so if you are working on this make sure you are using the most up to date examples from there. My configuration does not differ from the example on the wiki other than for steps/mm dimensions and other printer specific stuff.

                            Well done!

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              New firmware 1.16 beta 5 with full IDEX support is now on GitHub.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • iDeveloundefined
                                iDevelo
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                                @dc42:

                                New firmware 1.16 beta 5 with full IDEX support is now on GitHub.

                                Awesome. I have movement on U!

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                                • iDeveloundefined
                                  iDevelo
                                  last edited by

                                  So far so good!

                                  https://youtu.be/-ALZAlP6Zqw

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                                  • toshiundefined
                                    toshi
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                                    Hi,
                                    I'm begin to design a coreXY printer and this idea of IDEX is an huge improvement I thing and i would like to upgrade with this. Good luck, you are in the good way !

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                                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                      T3P3Tony administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      Cool idex on corexy? That's a first as far as I am aware!

                                      www.duet3d.com

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                                      • botundefined
                                        bot
                                        last edited by

                                        I believe that dc42 came up with the idea of coreidexy on this forum, and harvested some ideas from the reprap forums. It is an idea that certainly has promise.

                                        *not actually a robot

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                                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                          T3P3Tony administrators
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                                          yes but the first implementation 🙂

                                          www.duet3d.com

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                                          • chrishammundefined
                                            chrishamm administrators
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                                            I've just finished some preliminary work on Duet Web Control to support multiple axes. If you are using an IDEX configuration, you can try out my latest 1.13 beta 2 for Duet WiFi which is available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3eaafeubpfhsyge/DuetWebControl-1.13-b2.bin?dl=0. More features are coming soon!

                                            Duet software engineer

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