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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @evan38109
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      @evan38109 said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

      Is it just VIN?

      yeah

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @evan38109
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        @evan38109 said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

        Dumb question: what voltage do the 5A OUT1-3 receive, the ones intended for "extruder heaters or similar?" Is it just VIN?

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Mainboard_6HC_Hardware_Overview#Section_Heating_Fans

        Yes.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman @T3P3Tony
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          @t3p3tony said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

          @deckingman said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

          @t3p3tony

          Tony, there is a bit of a conflict in the documentation https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Mainboard_6HC_Hardware_Overview.

          The picture of the boards has a graphic with the words "6x stepper drivers rated to 4A peak". But under "Features" the words say "Six high-current advanced TMC5160 stepper drivers: SPI controlled will all the latest Trinamic features. Maximum motor current 6.3A peak per phase (4.45A RMS)."

          As DC ran the thermal tests on an expansion board at 6.3A, I'm assuming the "4A" in the graphic is incorrect.

          Thanks Ian - its fixed now

          Still showing 4A here https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Mainboard_6HC_Hardware_Overview

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • wilrikerundefined
            wilriker @gtj0
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            @gtj0 said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

            MonoDevelop doesn't support .NET Core projects using .csproj project files. It complains about the project file not having a ProjectGuid.

            It does so for me. Which versions of MonoDevelop and .NET Core do you use? I have MonoDevelop 7.8.3 and .NET Core 2.2.401 (with 2.2.6 Runtime).

            Manuel
            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
            My Tool Collection

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User @T3P3Tony
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              @t3p3tony said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

              @calvinx Thats the plan - just see if we can get them sorted in time for this initial batch.

              Thanks for the clarification.

              Whats the plan to cater for those that purchased the initial batch if you cant amass connectors and plugs in time ?

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957
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                @t3p3tony Tony how is the pr-orders going for the first batch I need to order one but won't be able to till the end of this week?

                Cheers

                Doug

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                • gtj0undefined
                  gtj0 @wilriker
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                  @wilriker said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

                  @gtj0 said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

                  MonoDevelop doesn't support .NET Core projects using .csproj project files. It complains about the project file not having a ProjectGuid.

                  It does so for me. Which versions of MonoDevelop and .NET Core do you use? I have MonoDevelop 7.8.3 and .NET Core 2.2.401 (with 2.2.6 Runtime).

                  .NET Core is the same but MonoDevelop is 5.10.0 which is what's packaged for Fedora. Upgrading to 7.8 fixed it. Thanks Manuel!

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                  • Danalundefined
                    Danal @Dougal1957
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                    @dougal1957 said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

                    @t3p3tony Tony how is the pr-orders going for the first batch I need to order one but won't be able to till the end of this week?

                    Cheers

                    Doug

                    Also curious. I'll order one, just to support you guys, if there are enough left to stand a good chance of the order going through in this first batch.

                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                    • fotomasundefined
                      fotomas
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                      The "Hardware overview" of the Duet 3 says "Ethernet for future expansion", I am guessing that this is a typo and the board has an ethernet connection not using WiFi?

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @fotomas
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                        @fotomas The RPi has an RJ45 Ethernet which is what will be used for the web server etc. So my guess (and it is just a guess) would be that it's not typo but is indeed an additional Ethernet connector.

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User @deckingman
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                          @deckingman
                          You are correct the pi 3B+ also has wifi

                          @fotomas

                          I think you would benefit from reading and analyze and digest the documentation in greater detail, as guessing is the mother of all F******s

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
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                            The ethernet port has been covered earlier in this very thread..

                            https://forum.duet3d.com/post/104297
                            https://forum.duet3d.com/post/104241

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @deckingman
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                              @deckingman said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

                              @fotomas The RPi has an RJ45 Ethernet which is what will be used for the web server etc. So my guess (and it is just a guess) would be that it's not typo but is indeed an additional Ethernet connector.

                              The Ethernet connector is there for 2 reasons:

                              1. For possible support of EtherCat in future.

                              2. We have a small number of OEMs who use Duet 2 in print farms, where one PC uploads GCode files to multiple Duets. They will need to replicate this with Duet 3. So there will be the possibility of running the Duet 3 in standalone mode with a local SD card and no RPi. Then the Ethernet port will be used to upload files, send commands and get status, just like the Duet 2. But we haven't yet decided whether to fit the SD card socket as standard to the initial production run.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • gtj0undefined
                                gtj0 @dc42
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                                @dc42 If you decide to not populate them, will the Duet3's be field upgradable if we decide we'd like that functionality? I.E. Is it just a matter of adding the magnetics/jack and the sd card holder?

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @deckingman
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                                  @deckingman yes 4A but RMS now. David has tested over 4A RMS but I will keep the claim to 4 for now until we have done more testing

                                  www.duet3d.com

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                    T3P3Tony administrators @Danal
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                                    @danal @Dougal1957

                                    We still have some of the first batch unallocated. When we have sold out of that production run it will be out of stock on the website.

                                    The "normal" production run later this year will not be a pre-order.

                                    Cheers

                                    Tony

                                    www.duet3d.com

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                                    • DocTruckerundefined
                                      DocTrucker @T3P3Tony
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                                      @t3p3tony said in Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC - initial production run.:

                                      ...yes 4A but RMS now.

                                      Does the gcode current limit now instruct the drivers to maintain an RMS value or use the value as a limit to chop the current at?

                                      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                                      • DocTruckerundefined
                                        DocTrucker
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                                        Judging by the post on ecoansion board testing 4A RMS is roughly 5.7A peak, but I guess the exact relationship between RMS and peak will be related to drive voltage and the electrical properties of the motor.

                                        If the Duet 3 does still control at peak current does it report RMS or was that just read off the test rig equipment?

                                        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by dc42

                                          M950 motor currents in RRF have always been peak. This is because when the original Duet 0.6 came out, instructions for setting potentiometers on stepsticks were given in terms of peak current, probably because the Allegro drivers that were generally used referred to peak currents in the datasheet.

                                          Trinamic mostly refers to RMS currents in their datasheet. Somewhat confusingly, Marlin has adopted RMS current in its current-setting commands for Trinamic drivers, even though builds of Marlin for boards with non-Trinamic drivers that support motor current setting (e.g. RAMBO) have almost certainly always used peak current.

                                          The maximum allowed M906 value in the latest RRF3 builds for Duet 3 is 6300.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • fotomasundefined
                                            fotomas @dc42
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                                            @dc42

                                            I am probably slow here but I have read the hardware overview and it is not clear if a Raspnerry Pi I needed to use the web interface?

                                            Has the duet 3 network.connectivity on it's own, wired or wireless?

                                            The hardware overview states the following, and what is referred as "It" marked in bold? The duet 3 or a Raspbeery Pi.

                                            The Duet 3 mainboard has a dedicated high speed SPI bus to a single board computer (SBC). The reference implementation is a Raspberry Pi 3B or newer. The SBC provides the user interface (via a browser based control application called Duet Web Control, or a third party application). It also provides a network interface via the local network or VPN depending on how it is configured.

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