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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @mattbaker
      last edited by

      @mattbaker said in Connecting an expansion board - duet 3:

      @bearer Looks like they are.

      thats a bit ambiguous; they are the same or crossed over?

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      • mattbakerundefined
        mattbaker @A Former User
        last edited by

        @bearer Not crossed

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        • mattbakerundefined
          mattbaker
          last edited by

          This is my config.g file

          ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Thu Jan 23 2020 12:19:31 GMT+1100 (AEDT)

          ; General preferences
          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name

          M667 S1 ; select CoreXY mode

          ; Drives
          M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
          M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
          M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
          M569 P0.3 S1
          M569 P0.4 S1
          M569 P0.5 S0 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
          M569 P1.0 S0 ; physical drive 1.0 goes forwards

          M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.3:0.4 E0.5:1.0 ; set drive mapping
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E3000.00:3000.00 ; set steps per mm
          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1500 E500:500 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

          M671 X480.00:230.00:-10.00 Y440.00:-30.00:440 S100

          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
          M208 X450 Y450 Z550 S0 ; set axis maxima

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 S1 P"io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io0.in
          M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io2.in

          ; Z-Probe
          M574 Z1 S2
          M558 P5 C"io2.in" I1 H10 F200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P500 X40 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X40:440 Y40:440 S80 ; define mesh grid

          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
          M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
          M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"out3" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
          M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M950 F1 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
          M106 P1 S1 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F-1 ; define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Custom settings are not defined

          ; Miscellaneous
          M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @mattbaker
            last edited by

            Is the LED on the expansion board flashing in sync with the one on the main board? If so then the cable is ok.

            Have you set the address switches on the expansion board to address 1?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • mattbakerundefined
              mattbaker @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42 I tried changing the switches , but no joy. I'll have to check the lights in the morning. Which ones should I be looking at? Colour etc?

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              • mattbakerundefined
                mattbaker @mattbaker
                last edited by

                @mattbaker If set to 0, would the drive number be P0.6 etc?

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @mattbaker
                  last edited by

                  @mattbaker said in Connecting an expansion board - duet 3:

                  @mattbaker If set to 0, would the drive number be P0.6 etc?

                  The expansion board cannot be set to 0 in use (only to trigger a firmware update) in the configuration "0.n" refers to the mainboard.

                  www.duet3d.com

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @mattbaker
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                    @mattbaker said in Connecting an expansion board - duet 3:

                    @dc42 I tried changing the switches , but no joy. I'll have to check the lights in the morning. Which ones should I be looking at? Colour etc?

                    There is red LED on the main that flashes at about 1Hz. There is also a red LED on the expansion board which should also flash in synchronisation with the LED on the main board.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • mattbakerundefined
                      mattbaker @deckingman
                      last edited by

                      @deckingman The red light on the board flashes quickly, faster than that of the duet 3.

                      Checked and adjusted the switches set to 1.

                      I have even bought some cat 5 and rj11 plugs, and a crimper.

                      Still get the same error messages

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @mattbaker
                        last edited by

                        @mattbaker I'd say that you probably need to do a reset of the board and possibly flash the firmware but I'll leave @dc42 to talk you through that procedure and/or suggest something else.

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @mattbaker
                          last edited by dc42

                          @mattbaker said in Connecting an expansion board - duet 3:

                          The red light on the board flashes quickly, faster than that of the duet 3.

                          If it's flashing continuously at about twice the speed of the main board, that means it isn't receiving CAN messages.

                          Only the two middle pins of the RJ11/RJ12 cables need to be connected. The colours must be in the same order at bot ends. Flat cables often have the colours reversed. Round cables normally don't and should be OK.

                          Make sure you have the two CAN termination jumpers fitted correctly on the expansion board.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • mattbakerundefined
                            mattbaker
                            last edited by

                            Problem appears to be solved. I was using 6 pins, wired straight through. Then I read in another thread only the 4 middle were retired, I grabbed a 4 pin, and red lets flash in sync. And m122 b1 gives a response now.

                            However didn't realise using a 6 pin cable wouldn't work.

                            Thanks for your help.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              I'm glad you got it working; but I think your 6-pin cable is faulty. The unused 4 pins on each CAN connector on the expansion board are connected to the same pins on the other connector, but not to anything else.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Flex3Dundefined
                                Flex3D
                                last edited by

                                Dang... now i bought a short twisted adsl 2 cable for 6hc 1.0 and a 1.0 Extension Board.
                                I've to reorder a non twisted one now?

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                                • jay_s_ukundefined
                                  jay_s_uk @Flex3D
                                  last edited by

                                  @Flex3D
                                  Twisted is fine. It's crossed that you don't want. As long as the colours are in the same order at each end you'll be fine

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  • Flex3Dundefined
                                    Flex3D @jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by Flex3D

                                    @jay_s_uk thanks, so i'm fine with it. When i hold the endings together they are in the same order but twisted from one end to the other.

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @Flex3D
                                      last edited by

                                      @Flex3D should be fine then

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        Twisted pair cables are what we recommend. It's the flat non-twisted cables that tend to have the pins swapped between the ends.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • Danalundefined
                                          Danal
                                          last edited by Danal

                                          Note that a flat cable with RJ12 plugs on each end, with the same side 'up' on each end, DOES cross the center pins. Note the 3 to 4 and 4 to 3 below. This is a very common configuration for 'telephone' cables and will NOT work on the Duet CAN.

                                          1      6
                                          2      5
                                          3======4
                                          4======3
                                          5      2
                                          6      1
                                          

                                          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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