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    • Davundefined
      Dav @Phaedrux
      last edited by Dav

      @Phaedrux I'm using simplify 3d, I don't have special script.
      From simplify I print at 70mms.
      I don't know if can be the belts.

      I'm using 6mm belt, what do you suggest to buy?

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      • Davundefined
        Dav @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @Phaedrux this is a cube with the same configuration
        20200303_203835.jpg
        20200303_203831.jpg

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        • Davundefined
          Dav @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux do you suggest to change the 6mm belt with 9mm?

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @Dav
            last edited by

            @Dav 6mm belts are fine - 9mm won't cure your problems. What hot end and extrude are you using. How are they mounted? Is it Bowden or direct drive? Can you post some pictures of the printer.

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            • Davundefined
              Dav @deckingman
              last edited by

              @deckingman it's a sapphire plus printer, all mechanical parts are in metal, I changed the power supply with meanwell and motherboard with duet.
              I use bowden configuration with bondtech.
              At the moment the original parts are belt and e3d non original. 20200229_122921.jpg

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Are you able to tension the belts?

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @Dav
                  last edited by

                  @Dav If you put a finger on the nozzle with the motors on and belts locked, can you move it back and forth or from left to right?

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • Davundefined
                    Dav @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux I changed right now old belts with gates gt2 6mm,now I'm printing again same cube.

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                    • Davundefined
                      Dav @deckingman
                      last edited by

                      @deckingman no I can't

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                      • Davundefined
                        Dav @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux 20200303_222919.jpg 20200303_222931.jpg

                        On the left old non original belts, on the right gt2 belts... Same result..

                        Do you have a profile for simplify or slic3r to test?

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          PrusaSlicer 2.2 RC config.csv

                          Rename it to config.ini. You'll need to change the nozzle size and extrusion width for your printer. I'm using 0.6mm nozzle.

                          If you disconnect the belts and move the print head around manually, does it feel smooth?

                          Are there any belt tensioners? Are both belts equally tensioned?
                          If you wiggle things around, is there anything that feels loose?
                          Are the belt teeth riding on toothed idlers or flat idlers?

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          • mrehorstdmdundefined
                            mrehorstdmd
                            last edited by

                            If this is the same printer that was causing your Z axis problems, the belt layout is wrong for corexy and the belt tension is going to vary as the extruder moves around. That can easily lead to excessive ringing and the amount of it may vary depending on where the print sits on the bed. I suggest that you fix the belt path problem first, then tackle the print quality problems that remain.

                            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
                              last edited by

                              @mrehorstdmd I don't think the diagram from the other thread is accurate to how the sapphire plus is actually laid out. At least not from any of the reviews I've seen of it. From what I gather it's a correctly designed corexy.

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                mrehorstdmd @Phaedrux
                                last edited by mrehorstdmd

                                @Phaedrux It looks like the diagram came from an review of the Sapphire Plus and Sapphire Pro printers at All3DP. If that is a diagram supplied by 2Trees, it doesn't look good...

                                https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                • Davundefined
                                  Dav @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by Dav

                                  @Phaedrux ok tried with your profile and I think is much better

                                  20200303_233954.jpg 20200303_234009.jpg

                                  On the left your profile.

                                  I think there is something to change for jerk to optimise all edges.

                                  What do you think?

                                  Without belt x and y are very smooth, all mechanic I think is good and ok.

                                  Could you share your conf.g?

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                                  • Stephen6309undefined
                                    Stephen6309
                                    last edited by

                                    This may help:

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M593_Configure_Dynamic_Acceleration_Adjustment

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Dav
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dav said in Help Core XY:

                                      M566 X600 Y600 Z60 E600 ; Maximum jerk in mm/min
                                      M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1200 E2500 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X800 Y800 Z60 E1200 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

                                      This isn't far off from my own config.g settings.

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        It looks like it could be printed a bit hot. Do you know the thermistor settings for that hotend? Have you tried a temperature tower?

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                        • Davundefined
                                          Dav @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux my con print at 210°, with slicer con at 220°

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                                          • Davundefined
                                            Dav @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux what I see is, before duet I was using a mks board with tmc2208 and my stepper were very quiet, no vibration, now with duet i hear a little noise that cause a little vibration, can be this the problem?

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