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    • Carloundefined
      Carlo @Phaedrux
      last edited by Carlo

      @Phaedrux

      Hi Phaedrux,

      I feel like I am yeah.... no single layer yet setting up retraction/unretract FR etc which look good now(nimble so not used one before)
      Trigger height is now Z-0.064 ....from my point of view not sure what the point of the Smart Effector is tbph but causing 6 weeks of frustration as what it reports... well is misleading.
      i'll keep tweaking settings ..see if it will finally print that 1st layer .

      Below print is mesh enabled 2 passes 8 mm/sec I measure it at .2 mm with calipers layer height is .2 mm so not sure what to change now.
      I've rechecked extruder calibration its on the money.

      GOPR1088 (2).JPG

      Thanks to everyone for your help.
      C

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      • NexxCatundefined
        NexxCat @Carlo
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        @Carlo
        My apologies for not replying sooner. I use firmware retraction and I believe that level_test.gcode I sent may well have an M207 at the top. You can delete that line manually and that should fix it. Sorry about that!

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        • Carloundefined
          Carlo @NexxCat
          last edited by

          @NexxCat

          It's not a problem more me trying to understand and set my retract/unretract now more of the print is sticking I can finally set it for the nimble.
          And understand the Z hop.

          Thanks
          C

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          • NexxCatundefined
            NexxCat @Carlo
            last edited by

            @Carlo
            I'm glad you are finally making progress 🙂 I'll continue to check in and help out where I can.

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            • Carloundefined
              Carlo @NexxCat
              last edited by

              @NexxCat

              That's much appreciated.

              Thanks
              C

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              • Carloundefined
                Carlo @Carlo
                last edited by

                @Carlo

                So..they discovered a Intermediate-mass black hole or planets aligned and I got not just a 1st layer but a completed print.
                Big thanks to all for your help in my quest to get a print.

                oneandonlyduet2print.jpg

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                • Danalundefined
                  Danal @Carlo
                  last edited by

                  @Carlo said in Another Predator:

                  this is a Gorrila board which as far as I know is chit-tu based ? ... and the board is locked down...

                  Is it a Tri-Gorilla? From Anycubic? If so, they run Marlin and you can load your own. Of course, figuring out exactly how the config was built... that takes some work.

                  Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                  • Carloundefined
                    Carlo @Danal
                    last edited by

                    @Danal

                    Hi Danal,

                    No this is the Duet2 ethernet !!! I know taken everyone by surprise ...I'd given up as well.

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                    • NexxCatundefined
                      NexxCat @Carlo
                      last edited by

                      @Carlo
                      That's looking fantastic! Well done 😄

                      Would have been nice if Anycubic bonded these glass beds on straight thought! I don;t know a single Predator where the bed pattern is square the the frame 😛

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                      • Carloundefined
                        Carlo @NexxCat
                        last edited by

                        @NexxCat

                        No ..well done to you for slicing that file for me....Only issue is and the reason this board is being yanked out ...I have no idea why it's printed now no settings I have not tried before used today and I cant live with that sort of unreliability it has driven me nuts for 7 weeks the only reason it hasn't been torched is I wanted 1 print off of it.

                        Yeah its like use a jig to stick them down how hard is it it has a cross hair!

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                        • NexxCatundefined
                          NexxCat @Carlo
                          last edited by

                          @Carlo
                          It seems a shame to swap the board out, but I do understand that after fighting with it for so long, you just want it to work. I wish I had the answers for you, but trying to diagnose a printer you don't have access to is difficult. All the same, if I can help in the future I'm certainly happy to 🙂

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                          • Carloundefined
                            Carlo @NexxCat
                            last edited by

                            @NexxCat

                            Mate you have been a massive help..As the forum users and Mods have been... but no-one would take an unreliable car for a 3-4 hour drive knowing it was going to break down.
                            So it has to go.

                            Thanks for all your help its truly appreciated

                            C

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                            • Carloundefined
                              Carlo @Carlo
                              last edited by Carlo

                              @Carlo

                              Replaced the Smart effector with a new one from E3D and bobs your uncle printing as expected 1st time with a trigger height of -0.12 set in config.g not messing with unknown height.
                              so...original SM is not showing any errors flashes twice on startup and well dunno? would like it tested or updated please so I can use it as a second head with different nozzle setup.

                              Regards
                              C

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Hi Carlo, was this a warranty replacement from E3D or an out of pocket on your part?

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                                • Carloundefined
                                  Carlo @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux

                                  Hi,

                                  Out of pocket..the original is from Duet3d online

                                  C

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                                  • bbergerundefined
                                    bberger @NexxCat
                                    last edited by

                                    @NexxCat said in Another Predator:

                                    @Carlo
                                    Try using this macro to configure your Z-probe offset. I wrote it and use it across multiple machines. Make sure to heat both the bed and nozzle. I use 60C on the bed and 130C on the nozzle:

                                    ;calibrate_z_probe_offset.g
                                    G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z0			; Reset Z trigger height to 0mm
                                    M290 R0 S0				; Reset babystepping
                                    G29 S2					; Clear bed mesh
                                    G28					; Home the effector
                                    G1 X0 Y0 Z20 F6000			; Move close to the bed
                                    G30					; Probe to find a rough Z 0mm
                                    
                                    G1 X0 Y0 Z1 F3000			; Move the nozzle to Z 1mm slowly
                                    G92 Z3.0				; Set the Z height to 3mm, allowing moves below 0
                                    M291 P"Lower the nozzle to until it grips a piece of paper. Click to continue." S2 Z1
                                    G92 Z0					; Define this point as 0mm
                                    G1 X0 Y0 Z20				; Move the probe to Z 20mm
                                    G30 S-3					; Probe and set the trigger height
                                    G1 Z20					; Raise Z to 20mm
                                    

                                    It will report your trigger height back, which you can then put into config.g

                                    Just a quick heads up.. this macro is kinda broken on the latest RRF3-RC6 for me.. the dialog doesn't show any steps anymore.

                                    @chrishamm

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @bberger
                                      last edited by

                                      @bberger You could even use M500 P31 to save the offset to config-override.

                                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M500_Store_parameters

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                                      • bbergerundefined
                                        bberger @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux yeah, I was just trying to point out a possible bug in the latest DWC (or RRF) release. Just wanted to mention it before I forget.

                                        I'll file a GitHub issue once I've verified that the dialog (there should be a dialog with step command buttons, right now I only have a dialog without inputs) is actually broken and it's not on my end.

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                                        • droftartsundefined
                                          droftarts administrators @Carlo
                                          last edited by

                                          @Carlo said in Another Predator:

                                          Out of pocket..the original is from Duet3d online

                                          Hi Carlo. Really sorry that the Smart Effector caused you so many problems. It wasn't obvious what part was causing the issue in this thread, so many thanks for sticking with it and trying a replacement. I'm glad it wasn't the Duet too!

                                          I'm very happy to offer you a warranty replacement for your original Smart Effector. As you bought it direct from us, please fill in the form at the bottom of this page, referencing this thread: https://www.duet3d.com/warranty

                                          Ian

                                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                          • droftartsundefined
                                            droftarts administrators @droftarts
                                            last edited by

                                            @Carlo Also, no need to return the old board at present. What might be useful is if you can take a good, focussed, hi res image of both sides of the board, and post them here, so we can see if there are any physical problems with it, eg poor soldering, which might be easily fixed. There have been two versions of the Smart Effector, v1.3 and v2.0, which do you have?

                                            If possible, it may be worth updating the firmware on it, though I don't think you can query the board to find out the firmware version. The latest was released in November 2019. See https://github.com/dc42/Duet3dSmartEffector/releases
                                            If you bought the board before then, it may have the issue where it forgets a custom set sensitivity, though I don't think you were using this feature, using M672 (see https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Section_Programming_the_sensitivity).

                                            To update the firmware on the Smart Effector you'll need to connect a programmer (eg AVRISP Mk 2) to the 6-pin connector next to the LED, and use Atmel Studio or avrdude to send the firmware hex file to the board. You may be able to use another Arduino to program it: https://www.arduino.cc/en/tutorial/arduinoISP

                                            Ian

                                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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