Cambio elettronica



  • Buon pomeriggio a tutti.
    Dopo due anni di assenza e inattivita' mi son deciso a ritornare.
    Tempo fa ho acquistato la stampante X5SA PRO della Tronxy che monta una elettronica a 24v "CXY-V8-190729" con auto livellamento.
    La meccanica e' una Corexy con guide lineari industriali.
    Il Firmware e' della chitu adattato alla tronxy e quindi non modificabile.
    Quattro giorni fa mi si e' impallata l'elettronica nel senso che non accettava piu' i comandi, di coseguenza ho deciso
    di cambiare scheda con la duet2 wifi che gia' avevo in possesso e montata su un'altra stampante cartesiana con telaio in plastica "I3 Pro B della geeetech"
    Dato che la stampante i3 pro b in originale era a 12v poi aggiunto un alimentatore a 24v e montato la scheda duet2 wifi.
    Dopo aver guardato e riguardato il cablaggio mi son deciso a cambiare la scheda, fin qui tutto ok.
    Ieri accendo la stampante con la nuova scheda, fantastico si e' accesa senza problema alcuno
    Ora vengono i problemi di configurazione, avendo letto vari treed tradotti in italiano "non so l'inglese 😥 " e con varia confusione perche' non e' che la traduzione faccia capire bene quello che l'interlocutore scrive. Quindi ho deciso di aggiungermi qui e dare una mano a tutti voi come meglio posso descrivendo quello che ho fatto e come l'ho fatto.

    Partiamo con ordine:

    1. Firmware da aggiornare
    2. controlweb da aggiornare
    3. Sonda Z modello ( XY-08N NPN NO - DC6-36v 3 fili +/-/S )

    Punto 1: Ho aggiornato il firmware da 2.05 alla versione 3 ma non andato a buon fine cioe', dopo averlo aggiornato mi dava sempre il FW 2.05 quindi da webcontrol ho eliminato il FW 2.05 dalla scheda SD e reinstallato il 3.0 ora funziona, qui di seguito metto il log.
    console.txt

    Punto 2: qui nessun problema, ho caricato tramite webcontrol in "system/upload system files" una volta caricato il file ti chiede di resettare il tutto, si da l'ok ed e' fatta tutto funzionante.

    Per quanto riguarda il punto 1, qualcuno ha riscontrato problemi con le temperature fuori scala "2000 C", ho avuto anche io lo stesso problema ma risolto come desrcitto al punto 1.

    Punto 3: come collegare la sonda z della tronxy, ho collegato il positivo e negativo all'uscita della ventola sempre in funzione avendo 24v come alimentazione di conseguenza anche le ventole funzionano a 24v , il cavo del segnale l'ho collegato con un diodo allo Z_Probe_in, con un tester ne ho controllato il voltaggio di uscita della sonda che mi dava in attivo 0,650 v, quindi sembra funzionare bene (Fate ATTENZIONE al voltaggio essendo a 24v anche l'uscita del sensore avra' i 24 ma avendo messo un diodo avra' una caduta di tensione quando attivo, il sensore in questione rileva alluminio, ferro, acciaio, ma NON vetro.

    Spero di essere stato d'aiuto a tutti coloro che hanno acquistato una tronxy x5sa pro e vogliano cambiare elettronica, Spero anche di essere nel tread giusto.



  • Good afternoon everybody.
    After two years of absence and inactivity I decided to return.
    Some time ago I purchased the X5SA PRO printer from Tronxy which mounts a 24v electronic "CXY-V8-190729" with self leveling.
    The mechanics is a Corexy with industrial linear guides.
    The Firmware is of the chitu adapted to the tronxy and therefore cannot be modified.
    Four days ago the electronics got stuck in the sense that it no longer accepted the commands, so I decided
    to change the card with the duet2 wifi that I already had and mounted on another Cartesian printer with plastic frame "I3 Pro B from geeetech"
    Since the original i3 pro b printer was 12v then added a 24v power supply and mounted the duet2 wifi card.
    After looking and looking at the wiring, I decided to change the card, so far so good.
    Yesterday I turn on the printer with the new card, fantastic it turned on without any problem
    Now there are the configuration problems, having read several treed translated into Italian "I don't know English 😥" and with various confusion because it is not that the translation makes it clear what the interlocutor writes. So I decided to join here and help out all of you as best I can by describing what I did and how I did it.

    Let's start with order:

    Firmware to be updated
    controlweb to update
    Z probe model (XY-08N NPN NO - DC6-36v 3 wires + / - / S)
    Point 1: I updated the firmware from 2.05 to version 3 but it was not successful, that is, after updating it it always gave me the FW 2.05 so from webcontrol I deleted the FW 2.05 from the SD card and reinstalled the 3.0 now works, here of then I put the log.
    console.txt

    Point 2: no problem here, I uploaded via webcontrol in "system / upload system files" once uploaded the file asks you to reset everything, gives the ok and everything is done.

    As for point 1, someone found problems with the "2000 C" off-scale temperatures, I also had the same problem but solved it as described in point 1.

    Step 3: how to connect the probe z of the tronxy, I connected the positive and negative to the output of the fan always running having 24v as power supply therefore also the fans work at 24v, the signal cable I connected it with a diode to the Z_Probe_in, with a tester I checked the output voltage of the probe that gave me 0.650 v in active mode, so it seems to work well (BEWARE of the voltage being at 24v also the sensor output will have 24 but having put a diode will have 'a voltage drop when active, the sensor in question detects aluminum, iron, steel, but NOT glass.

    I hope I have been of help to all those who have purchased a tronxy x5sa pro and want to change electronics, I also hope to be in the right tread.



  • @Leblond Grazie!

    Questo è molto utile

    Per favore, contribuisci di più, in qualsiasi momento.



  • @Danal said in Cambio elettronica:

    @Leblond Grazie!

    Questo è molto utile

    Per favore, contribuisci di più, in qualsiasi momento.

    ti ringario faro' il possibile


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    @Leblond Thanks for your report!

    Ian



  • Ragazzi una domanda, dato che devo vedere se i motori girino nel verso giusto mi chiedevo se esisteva un modo per bypassare l'home di tutti gli assi, non vorrei che andassero a sbattere o peggio ancora rovinarmi il piatto di stampa.


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    @Leblond Send M564 S0 H0 to allow moves without homing, and outside the limits of the print volume.

    Ian



  • @droftarts grazie



  • @droftarts said in Cambio elettronica:

    M564 S0 H0
    ho lanciato il comando M564 S0 H0, poi G1 X50 F200 non funziona, quindi ho provato a mandare l'asse x in home, ma mi si e' alzato l'asse Z, forse qualcosina non quadra


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    @Leblond It sounds like you have connected the stepper motors to the wrong pins! See the wiring diagram here for the motor connections: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_Wiring_Diagrams

    If your wiring is correct, post your config.g file. Also send M115 and post the response.

    Ian



  • 0:/sys/config.g.bak
    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Tue Mar 31 2020 13:40:08 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)

    ; General preferences
    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M550 P"X5SA PRO" ; set printer name

    M667 S1 ; select CoreXY mode

    ; Network
    M552 S1 ; enable network
    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

    ; Drives
    M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
    M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
    M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
    M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
    M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z4000.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
    M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
    M208 X330 Y330 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima

    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
    M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

    ; Z-Probe
    M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    M557 X60:300 Y50:300 S20 ; define mesh grid

    ; Heaters
    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
    M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
    M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

    ; Tools
    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

    ; Custom settings are not defined

    ; Miscellaneous
    M911 S22 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss


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    @Leblond said in Cambio elettronica:

    config.g.bak

    That's the backup file. Post 'config.g'.

    Ian


  • Moderator

    @Leblond said in Cambio elettronica:

    M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3

    That looks okay. Note that the order of the driver pins on the board, from left to right, is E1, E0, X, Y, Z.

    Ian



  • ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Tue Mar 31 2020 13:40:08 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)

    ; General preferences
    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M550 P"X5SA PRO" ; set printer name

    ;M667 S1 ; select CoreXY mode
    M669 K1
    ; Network
    M552 S1 ; enable network
    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

    ; Drives
    M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
    M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
    M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
    M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
    M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z4000.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
    M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
    M208 X330 Y330 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima

    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
    M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

    ; Z-Probe
    M558 P5 C"zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    M557 X60:300 Y50:300 S20 ; define mesh grid

    ; Heaters
    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
    M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
    M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

    ; Tools
    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

    ; Custom settings are not defined

    ; Miscellaneous
    M911 S22 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss



  • sicuramente e' tutto sbagliato ma l'ho fatto con il configuratore reprap



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  • l'unico problema elettrico che ho riscontrato e' il colore dei fili
    2b rosso
    2a blu
    1a verde
    1b nero

    ma la connessione dei fili dei motori sono invertiti le fasi 1a e 1b
    che sia quello?



  • cioe' i cavi dei motori che dovrebbero essere 2b-R 2a-B 1a-V 1b-N sui fili 1a e 1b sono invertiti



  • G28
    Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move



  • Ragazzi ho realmente bisogno di voi, non ce ne salto fuori, mi continua a dare come errore Z probe already triggered at start of probing move


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