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    • tech-ratonundefined
      tech-raton
      last edited by tech-raton

      In an enclosure, a watercooling is the best solution for me. A chimera might very large for a single extruder. I drilled some blocks of aluminium used with the e3d heatbreak.
      No more heatcreap with a very small block 15936391776921731898753787276774.jpg

      15936392269301246707830868041104.jpg

      All the parts in the watercooling are in aluminium
      The first block had a thermistor in it and the mesured temperature remains at 27deg in a 60deg enclosure.
      These blocks were made with a drill.

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      • jens55undefined
        jens55 @tech-raton
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        @tech-raton I am having a bit of a problem visualizing what you have done there. I see the heater and you say you use the E3D heat break so I am assuming that the heat break screws into your cooling block ? I am not sure what the red thing is in the square aluminum tube. How does the filament get guided to the heat break during a filament change ? What is the path of the coolant in that block - is it simply a blind hole at the entrance and exit with a cross drilled path connecting the two blind holes that is then plugged with the bolt shown in the middle of the block side ?

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        • fmaundefined
          fma
          last edited by fma

          Here is what I planned to do for a friend:

          Capture d’écran_2020-07-02_06-04-14.png

          The heatbreak is not the standard one, it is a full M6 thread, instead of the standard M6/M7 one.

          Frédéric

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          • fmaundefined
            fma @jens55
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            @jens55 said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

            @tech-raton I am not sure what the red thing is in the square aluminum tube.

            A remote extruder, I think.

            @tech-raton, what is the hotend, on the delta? I like round the heat block... Is it a piezo, above the water cooling block?

            Frédéric

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            • jens55undefined
              jens55 @fma
              last edited by

              @fma said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

              Herre is what I planned to do for a friend:

              Capture d’écran_2020-07-02_06-04-14.png

              The heatbreak is not the standard one, it is a full M6 thread, instead of the standard M6/M7 one.

              OK so the water cooling block is a straight through drill and then a loop on the far side back into the cooler ? The ptfe tube goes straight to the heat break ? I assume the top thing is the ptfe coupling ?

              Is the nut captive somehow in the assembly ? How ?

              Sorry about all the questions ....

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              • tech-ratonundefined
                tech-raton
                last edited by tech-raton

                Yup the red thing is a remote extruder.

                The watercooling on the corexy is just a 8mm aluminium part with 7 holes drilled
                A m7 for the heatbreak
                2 m5 for the pushfits
                A m4 to connect the 2 m5 holes
                3 m3 holes to attach on the carriage

                On the delta, the hotend is a maxiwatt with a homemade silicon sock
                And yes with a piezo as z probe

                Why you heat

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for the clarification!

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                  • tech-ratonundefined
                    tech-raton @fma
                    last edited by

                    @fma

                    Why have 4 pushfits?

                    You could make a u shape inside your watercooling.
                    It will reduce the flow but will increase the heat exchange.

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                    • fmaundefined
                      fma @jens55
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                      @jens55 said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                      OK so the water cooling block is a straight through drill and then a loop on the far side back into the cooler ?

                      Exactly.

                      The ptfe tube goes straight to the heat break ?

                      Yes.

                      I assume the top thing is the ptfe coupling ?

                      No, this is the standard groove for hotends. It is designed for direct extruding. But you can modify this part (3D-printed) for Bowden, using a coupler thread.

                      Is the nut captive somehow in the assembly ? How ?

                      The 3D-printed part is made in 2 parts (split along the vertical axis), and glued together (there are 2 holes to help aligning it. Here is a closer view:

                      Capture d’écran_2020-07-02_06-52-11.png

                      Sorry about all the questions ....

                      You welcome! This design hasn't beed tested, and I would love to have feedback if you go that way.

                      Frédéric

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                      • fmaundefined
                        fma @tech-raton
                        last edited by

                        @tech-raton said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                        Why have 4 pushfits?

                        Easier to do.

                        You could make a u shape inside your watercooling.

                        How? I only have a drill...

                        It will reduce the flow but will increase the heat exchange.

                        It is the same, as I use a small external tube to make the half turn.

                        Frédéric

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                        • fmaundefined
                          fma @tech-raton
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                          @tech-raton said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                          On the delta, the hotend is a maxiwatt with a homemade silicon sock

                          Thanks! I'll have a look at this block...

                          Frédéric

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                          • jens55undefined
                            jens55
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                            Ahh, clever! If the ptfe tube is captured by clamping pressure that seems to make clearing a clog kinda tough ???

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                            • fmaundefined
                              fma @jens55
                              last edited by fma

                              @jens55 said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                              Ahh, clever! If the ptfe tube is captured by clamping pressure that seems to make clearing a clog kinda tough ???

                              As said, I didn't test it, and it may not work as expected. A longer heat break should be better, but I'm not sure if we can find one... But yes, the PTFE tube has to be clampled down, with the above part (extruder or bowden push fit).

                              Frédéric

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                              • jens55undefined
                                jens55
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                                Well I think that it shows great promise!

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                                • fmaundefined
                                  fma
                                  last edited by

                                  The goal of this design was to be able to use it in a standard setup (groove), but if you can customize the extruder side, it might be improved...
                                  Another thing to check is if the 3D-printed part can handle the temperature. It should if the water flow is good, but better use PET-G or ABS.

                                  Frédéric

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                                  • fmaundefined
                                    fma @tech-raton
                                    last edited by

                                    @tech-raton said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                                    And yes with a piezo as z probe

                                    Do you have a CAD design of your setup, with Piezo? It is a nice and compact solution...

                                    Frédéric

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                                    • tech-ratonundefined
                                      tech-raton @fma
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                                      @fma

                                      With only a drill (and a screw), you could have a u shape.

                                      image.png

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                                      • tech-ratonundefined
                                        tech-raton @fma
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                                        @fma yes i think i have it.

                                        What kind of files do you want?

                                        I work on catia

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                                        • fmaundefined
                                          fma
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok, I see for the U. I will do that the next time!

                                          STEP is ok for the CAD files. Thanks!

                                          Frédéric

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                                          • deckingmanundefined
                                            deckingman
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                                            Do any of you guys have any links to the tube, fittings, and pump that you use. I'd like to use the smallest possible tubing and the quietest possible pump.

                                            Ian
                                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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