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    • alankilianundefined
      alankilian
      last edited by

      One way to test this theory is to make a square, but rotated 90-degrees.

      That way, you get two reversals of each axis while the other axis is moving continuously in the same direction.

      You'll see the vertices get messed up if you've got a lot of backlash.

      AND you can do it with just G1 moves.

      SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @alankilian
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        @alankilian said in Controlled arc problem:

        One way to test this theory is to make a square, but rotated 90-degrees.

        Don't you mean 45 degrees?!

        Ian

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        • neiloundefined
          neilo
          last edited by

          Thanks folks for the opinions really appreciate independent advice! I will focus on the mechanicals and re-test the square / diamond combo.
          Neil

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          • alankilianundefined
            alankilian @droftarts
            last edited by

            @droftarts said in Controlled arc problem:

            Don't you mean 45 degrees?!

            Ha ha.

            Yes. Thanks for catching my lack-of-coffee posting.

            SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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            • cjmundefined
              cjm
              last edited by cjm

              @neilo The behaviour does look odd.
              It is interesting that some of the part (e.g. the upper left quadrant) is machined OK over multiple layers.
              As mentioned by others, this implies something is loose, perhaps a drive block, so that when the axis is driven in one direction the slack is taken up and the movement is controlled, but when there is a change of direction, the slack needs to be taken up in the other direction before movement control is restored. i.e. backlash, but with much more movement (around 4-5mm by the looks of the part) than normal.
              With the spindle/router powered down and unplugged for safety, if you send the machine to XY coordinates in the middle of its range and then manually try move the spindle/axes carriages in X and Y directions what do you feel?
              Everything should be tight, with no knock or play.

              I'm not sure it will help but as requested here's my config.sys file:
              config.g

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              • alankilianundefined
                alankilian
                last edited by

                This seems like a big enough error that you should be able to measure it with a ruler.

                Try:

                g0 x0 y0
                (Mark the position)
                g0 x100
                (Check to see if it moved 100mm)
                g0 x0
                (Check to see if it moved 100mm back)

                If there's a lot of backlash in the X mechanics, you'll see one or the other of those moves be less than 100mm

                SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                • neiloundefined
                  neilo
                  last edited by

                  Dear all, thanks so much for the advice, the loose grub screw was the root cause which was definitely in my blind spot! Learnt a lot and really appreciate the support, looking much better now with some tweaks.
                  Neil
                  WIN_20210109_13_55_44_Pro.jpg

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                  • whopping pochardundefined
                    whopping pochard
                    last edited by

                    Hooray!! Glad you solved it!

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                    • cjmundefined
                      cjm @neilo
                      last edited by

                      @neilo great news!

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                      • alankilianundefined
                        alankilian
                        last edited by

                        Wonderful!

                        I'm glad you kept at it. This is a good story for the next person struggling to solve a difficult issue.

                        SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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