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    StaticRed @StaticRed
    last edited by 13 Jun 2021, 09:42

    @staticred seems like it still did record some data at some point.
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    But it does not make sense that that is the z axis. Because the board is mounted flat on the toolhead. Really strange

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      dc42 administrators @StaticRed
      last edited by dc42 13 Jun 2021, 09:50

      @staticred I will re-test accelerometer with Duet 3 Mini later today or tomorrow.

      What did the raw data look like, before you clicked Analyse?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        StaticRed @dc42
        last edited by 13 Jun 2021, 09:54

        @dc42 Thank you alot!
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        This is what the raw data looked like

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          dc42 administrators @StaticRed
          last edited by dc42 14 Jun 2021, 13:43

          @staticred the raw data looks OK except for the spikes and drops, assuming that you collected that data while the machine was stationary. My guess is that those spikes/drops were where the firmware was unable to extract the data from the accelerometer fast enough. You can check this by looking at the end of the .csv file to see if there is a message about this. I think the DWC accelerometer plugin may report it too. See the notes at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Accelerometers#Section_Retrieving_the_data to see what you can do about it; or just try re-running it a few times to see if you can get a clean run.

          The analysis isn't valid if the data contains dropouts. To get a useful analysis you need to do a suitable move while the data is being collected as described at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Accelerometers#Section_Using_accelerometers.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            dc42 administrators @StaticRed
            last edited by 14 Jun 2021, 14:02

            @staticred I just connected a LIS3DH board to my Duet 3 Mini5+ WiFi and it is working as expected. I used connector IO2 to connect the CS and INT lines.

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              StaticRed @dc42
              last edited by 14 Jun 2021, 17:06

              @dc42 thank you for all the infos. I will tomorrow (after upgrading to my new orbiter extruder) solder all the wires to the lis3DH and also make proper connections. Maybe just a faulty cable caused it.

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                dc42 administrators @StaticRed
                last edited by dc42 7 Feb 2021, 19:32 2 Jul 2021, 19:08

                For anyone having problems getting an SPI-connected accelerometer to work:

                I have found that capacitive coupling between the SDO and CS signals in the cable can cause a glitch on CS when the accelerometer replied to a read register request, and this glitch stops the accelerometer sending any more data. This is especially likely if those two signals, which use adjacent pins on the Adafruit LIS3DH board, use adjacent conductors in a flat cable. I was able to work around this by putting a 1K resistor in series with SDO at the accelerometer end of the cable.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  Ducati87
                  last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:23

                  I'm having an issue with the connection. I used a CAT7 ethernet cable but nothing works. Every time I try to launch the command, the accelerator is not found. Any suggest about which cable I should use? Thankt you.

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                    SIam @Ducati87
                    last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:27

                    @ducati87 I use a USB3 cable and have no problems since then
                    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/22878/software-package-3-3beta3-released/68?_=1624809172098

                    Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                    Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                    Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                    Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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                      Ducati87 @SIam
                      last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:29

                      @siam Thank you Slam, I will try it 🙂

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                        dc42 administrators @Ducati87
                        last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:32

                        @ducati87 said in Accelerometer Usage:

                        I'm having an issue with the connection. I used a CAT7 ethernet cable but nothing works. Every time I try to launch the command, the accelerator is not found. Any suggest about which cable I should use? Thankt you.

                        See my reply immediately before your post.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          Ducati87 @dc42
                          last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:37

                          @dc42 what do you mean for "in series with SDO at the accelerometer end of the cable"?

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                            dc42 administrators @Ducati87
                            last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:39

                            @ducati87 I mean connect the resistor between the SDO pin of the accelerometer board and the wire that goes to MISO on the Duet, instead of connecting the wire directly to the SDO pin.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              Ducati87 @dc42
                              last edited by 2 Jul 2021, 19:40

                              @dc42 perfect thank you!

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                                StaticRed @dc42
                                last edited by 3 Jul 2021, 12:55

                                @dc42 i will definetly try that out. I had firstly swap my board because of that early production process. While doing that i also swapped my z axis, now need to reconfigure than, and then can test the lis3dh again.

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                                  Ducati87 @dc42
                                  last edited by 6 Jul 2021, 13:02

                                  @dc42 said in Accelerometer Usage:

                                  @ducati87 I mean connect the resistor between the SDO pin of the accelerometer board and the wire that goes to MISO on the Duet, instead of connecting the wire directly to the SDO pin.

                                  in spite of the 1K resistor, the accelerometer is not found. I checked the cable on my duet daughter board and everything seems to be ok. Any suggest? Thank you.

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                                    dc42 administrators @Ducati87
                                    last edited by 6 Jul 2021, 16:09

                                    @ducati87 thanks for trying. I've no more suggestion yet, but I will get back to this when I have time. What sort of cable are you using, and how long is it? Photos of the two ends please.

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                                      MikeS @dc42
                                      last edited by 8 Jul 2021, 18:24

                                      @dc42 i'm in the same situation as @Ducati87 . Here's the thread where i have asked for help and post a photo of the wiring https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/24099/accelerometer-on-duet2wifi-duex5-expansion/3

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                                        CCS86
                                        last edited by 11 Jul 2021, 22:00

                                        Same boat here.

                                        M955 P0 >>>> "Accelerometer not found"

                                        M955 P0 C"exp.pa22+exp.pa21" >>>> "Accelerometer not found on specified port"

                                        • Running RRF3.3 Stable

                                        • Wired with a VGA cable. I could probably take about 12" out of the cable length. I left it longer to keep the second ferrite noise filter in place.

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                                          dc42 administrators @CCS86
                                          last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 08:45

                                          @ccs86 I can't see anything wrong with the wiring or configuration command; so I guess it's an issue of cable length. How long is the cable? A 900mm long multicore cable is working OK for me on a Duet WiFi.

                                          Have you tried temporarily unplugging the PT100 daughter board?

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