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    • Ducati87undefined
      Ducati87 @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

      M98 P"config.g"

      M98 P"config.g"
      HTTP is enabled on port 80
      FTP is disabled
      TELNET is disabled
      Error: Driver 0 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
      Error: Driver 1 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
      Error: Driver 3 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
      Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 267C
      
      M122
      === Diagnostics ===
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2.2 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
      Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N85S4-7JTDJ-3SN6T-9S93Q
      Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (24 max)
      === RTOS ===
      Static ram: 23460
      Dynamic ram: 73840 of which 104 recycled
      Never used RAM 14676, free system stack 93 words
      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,177) HEAT(blocked,308) MAIN(running,378) IDLE(ready,20)
      Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
      === Platform ===
      Last reset 00:14:30 ago, cause: power up
      Last software reset at 2021-06-14 18:07, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 14960, slot 1
      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
      Error status: 0x0c
      Aux0 errors 0,0,0
      MCU temperature: min 21.3, current 31.4, max 31.7
      Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.2, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
      Driver 0: position 35360, standstill, SG min/max 0/171
      Driver 1: position -31200, standstill, SG min/max 0/166
      Driver 2: position 3165, standstill, SG min/max 0/147
      Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
      Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/139
      Driver 5: position 0
      Driver 6: position 0
      Driver 7: position 0
      Driver 8: position 0
      Driver 9: position 0
      Driver 10: position 0
      Driver 11: position 0
      Date/time: 2021-06-15 15:16:45
      Cache data hit count 1029472552
      Slowest loop: 65.57ms; fastest: 0.17ms
      I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
      === Storage ===
      Free file entries: 10
      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
      SD card longest read time 1.7ms, write time 2.6ms, max retries 0
      === Move ===
      DMs created 83, maxWait 186021ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
      === MainDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 309, completed moves 309, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === AuxDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === Heat ===
      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
      Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
      === GCodes ===
      Segments left: 0
      Movement lock held by null
      HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
      Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
      File is idle in state(s) 0
      USB is idle in state(s) 0
      Aux is idle in state(s) 0
      Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
      Queue is idle in state(s) 0
      LCD is idle in state(s) 0
      Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
      Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
      Code queue is empty.
      === Network ===
      Slowest loop: 39.64ms; fastest: 0.00ms
      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
      - WiFi -
      Network state is active
      WiFi module is connected to access point 
      Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
      WiFi firmware version 1.25
      WiFi MAC address 98:f4:ab:d1:e5:99
      WiFi Vcc 3.36, reset reason Turned on by main processor
      WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23872
      WiFi IP address 192.168.178.7
      WiFi signal strength -62dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
      Clock register 00002002
      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
      
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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @Ducati87
        last edited by

        @ducati87 said in Bad mesh compensation:

        M671 X-15:290 Y114:114 S6

        why are you setting the Y screw location at Y114 but then you're probing at Y190?

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • Ducati87undefined
          Ducati87 @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk

          Y114 is the right probe position in front of the lead screw.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            your homeall just calls the individual homing files, can you post those?

            0,0 is expected to be the front left corner of the build plate.
            -x moves to the left, +x moves to the right
            -y moved to the front, +y moves to the back

            Does this match what you have?

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            • Ducati87undefined
              Ducati87 @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

              your homeall just calls the individual homing files, can you post those?

              0,0 is expected to be the front left corner of the build plate.
              -x moves to the left, +x moves to the right
              -y moved to the front, +y moves to the back

              Does this match what you have?

              yes they are matched.

              homex:

              ; homex.g
              ; called to home the X axis
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Jul 27 2020 14:28:18 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
              M400
              M913 X50
              M400
              M201 X200
              M915 X F0 H400 S1 R0
              G91               ; relative positioning
              ;G1 H2 Z5 F7200    ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H2 Z10 F7000
              G1 H1 X-305 F5000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H2 X10 F7200       ; go back a few mm
              G1 H1 X-305 F3000  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
              G1 H2 X15 F7200   ; lower Z again
              G90               ; absolute positioning
              M400
              M201 X4000
              M913 X100
              M400
              
              

              homey:

              ; homey.g
              ; called to home the Y axis
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Jul 27 2020 14:28:19 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
              G91               ; relative positioning
              M913 Y50
              M201 Y100
              M915 Y F0 H400 S1 R0
              ;G1 H2 Z5 F7200          ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 Y-305 F5000 		; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H1 Y10	
              ;G1 H1 Y-100 F5000        ; home Y axis
              M913 Y100
              M201 Y4000
              G90               ; absolute positioning
              
              

              homez:

              ; homez.g
              ; called to home the Z axis
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Jul 27 2020 14:28:19 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
              G91                ; relative positioning
              ;G1 H2 Z5 F7200     ; lift Z relative to current position
              ;G90                ; absolute positioning
              G1 H1 Z10 F800
              G1 X140 Y174 F7000           ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
              G4 P750             ; pause
              G91
              
              ;Probe Z
              G30
              G90
              ;G1 Z10 F500
              
              
              
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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @Ducati87
                last edited by

                @ducati87 said in Bad mesh compensation:

                G1 H1 Y-305 F5000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass) G1 H1 Y10

                This is not correct. The second move G1 H1 Y10 should not have H1 if it's a back off move it should just be G1 Y10

                @ducati87 said in Bad mesh compensation:

                G1 H2 Z10 F7000 G1 H1 X-305 F5000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass) G1 H2 X10 F7200 ; go back a few mm G1 H1 X-305 F3000 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass) G1 H2 X15 F7200 ; lower Z again

                H2 should only be used on Z moves to allow the Z axis to move before being homed. It should not be used on XY moves. There is also an error in the block above where the Z axis is lifted, but then the X axis is moved when the comment says to lower the Z axis.

                M671 X-15:290 Y114:114 S6

                Does driver 2 match the motor at the first XY position?
                Does driver 4 match the motor at the second XY position?

                G31 P500 X37 Y72 Z-1.044
                You have a rather large offset on Y axis. If there is some tilt it can produce different trigger heights depending on XY position.

                Your Z trigger height is negative. Is that correct? That would mean the nozzle is pushing a full 1mm into the surface of the bed when the probe triggers? Depending on the probe type this may be the case. What type of probe is it?

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                • Ducati87undefined
                  Ducati87 @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

                  @ducati87 said in Bad mesh compensation:

                  G1 H1 Y-305 F5000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass) G1 H1 Y10

                  This is not correct. The second move G1 H1 Y10 should not have H1 if it's a back off move it should just be G1 Y10

                  @ducati87 said in Bad mesh compensation:

                  G1 H2 Z10 F7000 G1 H1 X-305 F5000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass) G1 H2 X10 F7200 ; go back a few mm G1 H1 X-305 F3000 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass) G1 H2 X15 F7200 ; lower Z again

                  H2 should only be used on Z moves to allow the Z axis to move before being homed. It should not be used on XY moves. There is also an error in the block above where the Z axis is lifted, but then the X axis is moved when the comment says to lower the Z axis.

                  M671 X-15:290 Y114:114 S6

                  Does driver 2 match the motor at the first XY position?
                  Does driver 4 match the motor at the second XY position?

                  G31 P500 X37 Y72 Z-1.044
                  You have a rather large offset on Y axis. If there is some tilt it can produce different trigger heights depending on XY position.

                  Your Z trigger height is negative. Is that correct? That would mean the nozzle is pushing a full 1mm into the surface of the bed when the probe triggers? Depending on the probe type this may be the case. What type of probe is it?

                  thank you for your reply.

                  M671 X-15:290 Y114:114 S6

                  Does driver 2 match the motor at the first XY position?
                  Does driver 4 match the motor at the second XY position?

                  yes both of them.

                  G31 P500 X37 Y72 Z-1.044
                  You have a rather large offset on Y axis. If there is some tilt it can produce different trigger heights depending on XY position.

                  I reduced the gap between the probe and the bed and now the right value is 0.750.

                  The problem between the left and right side is a bit better than before but the compensation is not perfect.
                  The right side is still a bit upper than the left side but the compensation doesn't work as well.
                  Maybe I should to change the probe or install a bltouch in order to improve the accuracy.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    What is the probe? Reducing the distance between nozzle and probe may help.

                    Can you post a photo of your heightmap image?

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                    • Ducati87undefined
                      Ducati87 @Phaedrux
                      last edited by Ducati87

                      @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

                      What is the probe? Reducing the distance between nozzle and probe may help.

                      it's a normal inductive probe NPN.

                      Schermata 2021-06-15 alle 21.54.24.png

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Have you leveled the bed manually to get it more or less even to the nozzle tip first?

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                        • Ducati87undefined
                          Ducati87 @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

                          Have you leveled the bed manually to get it more or less even to the nozzle tip first?

                          do you mean the z offset?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            No i mean manually leveling the bed to try and eliminate as much tilt as possible.

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                            • Ducati87undefined
                              Ducati87 @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

                              No i mean manually leveling the bed to try and eliminate as much tilt as possible.

                              No I'm not. Yes but why there is this problem with automatic leveling?

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                              • engikeneerundefined
                                engikeneer @Ducati87
                                last edited by

                                @ducati87 you only have two z lead screws, at the max and min of the x axis (left/right), so the G32 levelling can only level along the x axis. From you heightmap image, it looks like your heightmap is very level in X as expected 🙂

                                You should probably try mechanically levelling your bed a bit better from front to back. From your first image, it seems that's the direction the issue is in?

                                E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                                Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                                i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes it seems a large Y tilt, possibly related to the large Y offset of the probe.

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                                  • Ducati87undefined
                                    Ducati87 @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by Ducati87

                                    @phaedrux
                                    is there any chance to fix it?

                                    maybe I should to move the probe in a better position.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      It's always best to have the probe as close to the nozzle as possible.

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                                      • Ducati87undefined
                                        Ducati87 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @phaedrux said in Bad mesh compensation:

                                        It's always best to have the probe as close to the nozzle as possible.

                                        ok I will try to move the probe in a better position. thank you so much.

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