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    • the_gibsonundefined
      the_gibson @T3P3Tony
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      @t3p3tony High deviance no matter how many times I run it... I think I found why, and now I'm working on figuring it out. When the furthestmost forward Probe point is attempted, the sled for the X Axis is hitting the end of it's bottom travel, and bumping twice before it triggers the probe. That reading has to be throwing the whole thing off.

      Going to work on adjusting the height of the bottom pulley, but is there a way to adjust the probing pattern? This is odd, because no mechanical changes were made, and the old smoothie board worked fine in this way.

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @the_gibson
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        @the_gibson said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

        but is there a way to adjust the probing pattern?

        yes the probe points should be specified in your bed.g

        G30 P0 X0 Y132.28 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P1 X121 Y69.86 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P2 X129.9 Y-75 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P3 X0 Y-150 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P4 X-129.9 Y-75 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P5 X-121 Y69.86 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P6 X0 Y59.15 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P7 X56.09 Y32.38 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P8 X64.95 Y-37.5 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P9 X0 Y-75 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P10 X-64.95 Y-37.5 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P11 X-56.09 Y32.38 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P12 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
        

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957
          last edited by Dougal1957

          Try reducing the Y-150 on line 11 of your BED.G (line 4 in Tony's post) Post that will move the front probe point towards the centre try starting from -140.

          ie make line 11 to be "G30 P3 X0 Y-140 H0 Z-99999" as you have it the front probe point is effectively 2.5 mm from the edge of your bed.

          HTH

          Doug

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          • the_gibsonundefined
            the_gibson @Dougal1957
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            @dougal1957 said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

            G30 P3 X0 Y-140 H0 Z-99999

            Testing now!

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            • the_gibsonundefined
              the_gibson @the_gibson
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              @the_gibson

              How about that...

              G32
              Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 1.177 after 0.026

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957 @the_gibson
                last edited by

                @the_gibson looking better has that solved the problem of the carriage fouling? also try running the G32 a few time see if it all settles in to lower figures (or the after deviation converges down so that each subsequent run doesn't get much different)

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                • the_gibsonundefined
                  the_gibson @Dougal1957
                  last edited by the_gibson

                  @dougal1957 Already all over that... and yes, carriage is good now.

                  I'll be posting back with results shortly.

                  definitely getting better.

                  G32
                  Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 0.085 after 0.031
                  
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                  • the_gibsonundefined
                    the_gibson @the_gibson
                    last edited by

                    @the_gibson ok, looking good now.

                    G32
                    Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 0.036 after 0.035
                    

                    Going to try another print.

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                    • the_gibsonundefined
                      the_gibson @the_gibson
                      last edited by

                      @the_gibson It is better, but definitely still dragging the print. first layer goes down great.

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                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                        T3P3Tony administrators @the_gibson
                        last edited by

                        @the_gibson ok so delta calibration is looking good now, and you say the first layer is going down well, what do you mean by "but definitely still dragging the print"

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                        • the_gibsonundefined
                          the_gibson @T3P3Tony
                          last edited by

                          @t3p3tony like the Z steps aren't moving appropriately. As soon as the second layer starts, you can hear the hotend dragging across the print, eventually either breaking the extruded material free of the bed, or creating a very deformed print. This still feels like either an extrusion issue, or a z steps being off issue.

                          but first problem is definitely fixed. 🙂

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                          • Dougal1957undefined
                            Dougal1957 @the_gibson
                            last edited by

                            @the_gibson said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

                            @t3p3tony like the Z steps aren't moving appropriately. As soon as the second layer starts, you can hear the hotend dragging across the print, eventually either breaking the extruded material free of the bed, or creating a very deformed print. This still feels like either an extrusion issue, or a z steps being off issue.

                            but first problem is definitely fixed. 🙂

                            What size pulleys do you have 16 or 20 tooth or some other size?

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                            • the_gibsonundefined
                              the_gibson @Dougal1957
                              last edited by

                              @dougal1957 Stock 20 tooth pulleys.

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                              • Dougal1957undefined
                                Dougal1957 @the_gibson
                                last edited by

                                @the_gibson said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

                                @dougal1957 Stock 20 tooth pulleys.

                                Have you double checked them as your symptoms suggest that yours are slightly different to that.

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                                • the_gibsonundefined
                                  the_gibson @Dougal1957
                                  last edited by

                                  @dougal1957 I have not. Assumed they were what was listed on the printer specs. You think they are 16's?

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                                  • Dougal1957undefined
                                    Dougal1957 @the_gibson
                                    last edited by

                                    @the_gibson said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

                                    @dougal1957 I have not. Assumed they were what was listed on the printer specs. You think they are 16's?

                                    that is what I would think maybe what you could do is mark one tooth with a sharp and then count them.

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                                    • crpalmerundefined
                                      crpalmer @the_gibson
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                                      @the_gibson I think that your steps/mm are right for x/y/z. If they were wrong you'd get a calibrated height that was well off of 530 because the calibration also calibrates how high it can go. Also, mine was running back in its stock days with the same value.

                                      Is your first layer actually a little too close? You could print a cube and see if you have "elephant foot" at the bottom indicating it is too close.

                                      If not, are you extruder steps/mm correct and have you calibrated the flow rate? Dragging could also be over extrusion.

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                                      • the_gibsonundefined
                                        the_gibson @Dougal1957
                                        last edited by

                                        @dougal1957 Definitely 20's.

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                                        • the_gibsonundefined
                                          the_gibson @crpalmer
                                          last edited by

                                          @crpalmer I am leaning toward overextrusion now as well.

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                                          • the_gibsonundefined
                                            the_gibson @crpalmer
                                            last edited by the_gibson

                                            @crpalmer I have reduce the extruder steps all the way down to 160... still happening...

                                            Starting to rule out overextrusion.

                                            adding current config.g

                                            ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 2.03)
                                            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                            ;
                                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.4 on Sun Oct 10 2021 10:43:02 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
                                            
                                            ; General preferences
                                            G90                                                ; send absolute coordinates...
                                            M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                            M550 P"HOWEE"                                      ; set printer name
                                            M555 P2
                                            M665 R157 L397.107 B175 H525                        ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                                            M666 X0.15 Y0.08 Z0.07                                      ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                                            
                                            ; Network
                                            M552 S1                                            ; enable network
                                            M586 P0 S1                                         ; enable HTTP
                                            M586 P1 S0                                         ; disable FTP
                                            M586 P2 S0                                         ; disable Telnet
                                            
                                            ; Drives
                                            M569 P0 S1                                         ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                            M569 P1 S1                                         ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                            M569 P2 S1                                         ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                            M569 P3 S1                                         ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                            M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                   ; set drive mapping
                                            M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E32 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                            M92 X160 Y160 Z160 E810							; set steps per mm
                                            M566 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z1500.00 E1500.00           ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                            M203 X39960 Y39960 Z39960 E3000.00        ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                            M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1500.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                            M906 X1100 Y1100 Z1100 E880 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                            M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout
                                            
                                            ; Axis Limits
                                            M208 Z0 S1                                         ; set minimum Z
                                            
                                            ; Endstops
                                            M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1                                   ; set active high endstops
                                            
                                            ; Z-Probe
                                            M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1                                ; disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
                                            M558 P9 H5 F120 T6000                              ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                            M558 H30                                           ;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
                                            G31 P500 X0 Y20 Z4.4                                 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                            M557 R150 S45                                      ; define mesh grid
                                            
                                            ; Heaters
                                            M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700                        ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                            M143 H0 S100                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 100C
                                            M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700                        ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                            M143 H1 S280                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                            
                                            ; Fans
                                            M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                             ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                            M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                          ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                            
                                            ; Tools
                                            M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 0
                                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                            G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                            
                                            ; Custom settings are not defined
                                            
                                            ; Miscellaneous
                                            M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                                            
                                            
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