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    • Wladekczundefined
      Wladekcz @T3P3Tony
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      @t3p3tony Yes, I read this document and connected according to it. The document is about Bl_Touch, I have a problem with CR_Touch

      Władekcz

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
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        @wladekcz 14466bb1-382c-4f09-ae9f-f42d6efd9ac4-image.png

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        • rjenkinsgbundefined
          rjenkinsgb @Wladekcz
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          @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

          I have a problem with CR_Touch

          It is still a genuine Anclabs BL Touch probe, just in a different box and with a cable that has different colours.

          I have one on my machine with a Duet3 6HC board (on IO_7), it works fine.

          The cable with mine did not match either set of colours in the examples page.
          Just work from the wire positions on the probe connector and use the correct colour, whatever is fitted to that connector pin, for that signal.

          Robert J.

          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @rjenkinsgb
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            @rjenkinsgb what are the alternative cable colours used? we can add those to the documentation. Cheers!

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            • rjenkinsgbundefined
              rjenkinsgb
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              White, black, yellow, red, blue.
              The red & blue are reversed from the existing Crealty notes!

              (And thanks for asking; the close-up photo showed the cable was not quite seated fully - it is now.)

              BLTouch.jpg

              Robert J.

              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @rjenkinsgb
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                @rjenkinsgb thanks. so ground is now red? what chaos

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                • Wladekczundefined
                  Wladekcz
                  last edited by

                  BL-Touch is a kind of semiconductor hall sensor. Creality's CR-Touch is a sensor based on optical technology.

                  Władekcz

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
                    last edited by T3P3Tony

                    @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

                    CR-Touch

                    ahh so they changed to this:
                    https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-cr-touch ?

                    Have you got the pinout, data sheet, voltage levels etc?

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                    • Wladekczundefined
                      Wladekcz
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                      Yes, I have this datasheet, it still doesn't change anything.

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                      • rjenkinsgbundefined
                        rjenkinsgb
                        last edited by rjenkinsgb

                        OK, confusion! The mention of BL Touch in the original question made it appear to the the Antclabs one.

                        They appear to both use exactly the same connections & same newer colour cable as my BL version - but do have some differences in the control signal, unfortunately, as the articles mention different software/firmware addons.

                        https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-bl-touch

                        https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-cr-touch

                        Edit - looking through the installation docs for the new CR touch, it still uses the BL Touch firmware - so presumably it does use the same signals?? Possibly just a custom BL Touch version for them?

                        Robert J.

                        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                        • Wladekczundefined
                          Wladekcz
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                          I am sending photos and files: configuration, M122.

                          config_g.txt
                          config-override _g.txt
                          M122.txt
                          sensor CR.jpg
                          sensor CR-QR.jpg
                          kabel-1.jpg
                          kabel2.jpg
                          kabel-3.jpg

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                          • rjenkinsgbundefined
                            rjenkinsgb
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                            Where you show the plug and socket linking the two cables, the wire sequence from the probe is reversed.

                            I believe it should be, without rearranging the plug at the Duet board end:

                            Probe white and red to duet red.
                            Probe black to duet black
                            Probe yellow to duet blue
                            Probe blue to duet green

                            Robert J.

                            Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                            • Wladekczundefined
                              Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                              @rjenkinsgb creality.jpg

                              Yes you are right, this is another attempt, in the previous version "IN" and "OUT" were swapped and the effect was the same. I am thinking about the resistor but I do not know where to connect it.

                              Władekcz

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                              • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                rjenkinsgb
                                last edited by

                                The power (+5v) and ground are still reversed!

                                Change it to match the connections I put in my last post.

                                Robert J.

                                Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                • Wladekczundefined
                                  Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                                  @rjenkinsgb Unfortunately, the reversal of 5+ and the ground did not give the expected effect. The core was not ejected. M401 and M402 do not work. Robert please check config_g.
                                  It is like this
                                  "; Probe Z
                                  M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                                  M558 P9 C "! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                                  G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                                  M557 X30: 280 Y30: 280 S30
                                  Shouldn't it be like this:
                                  M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                                  M558 P9 C "^! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                                  G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                                  M557 X30: 280 Y30: 280 S30

                                  Władekcz

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                    T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
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                                    @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

                                    M558 P9 C "^! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000

                                    no you should not have the pullup (^) on the input pin. Also if its the same as a normal BL touch from a signal perspective then the signal inversion (!) is also not needed so try:

                                    M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                                    M558 P9 C "Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                                    

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                                    • Wladekczundefined
                                      Wladekcz @T3P3Tony
                                      last edited by Wladekcz

                                      @t3p3tony I connected the sensor cable directly to the connector on the Duet3. After connecting the power, the sensor turned blue.

                                      IMG_20211103_144048.jpg

                                      Still not working properly. I measured the tensions between the cables. Between the ground and 5+ "4.9V". Between ground and white and yellow "4.88V". I read on the wiki that out and in only tolerate 3.3V. Do you have any suggestions.

                                      IMG_20211103_144159.jpg

                                      Władekcz

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                                      • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                        rjenkinsgb
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                                        This is my BLTouch config:

                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M950 S0 C"io7.out"                           ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                        M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H5 F100 T6000             ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                        G31 P500 X-46 Y4.5 Z2.840                    ; set Z probe trig value, offset (from TC face centre)+ trigger height
                                        M557 X0:240 Y10:270 S20                      ; define mesh grid
                                        

                                        You need to adjust the offsets and grid to suit your machine.

                                        It is unfortunately possible that it may have been damaged by having the positive and negative power reversed.

                                        Robert J.

                                        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                        • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                          rjenkinsgb
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                                          From that photo, you still have some wires wrong.

                                          With the Duet connector as shown above:

                                          The first pin on the left should be just black (+5V)
                                          Second pin: Yellow; OK (Out from Duet, In to probe)..
                                          Third pin: Red and White; (Grounds).
                                          Fourth pin: Blue (Out of probe, In on duet).
                                          Fifth pin: No connection; OK.

                                          Robert J.

                                          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                          • Wladekczundefined
                                            Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                                            @rjenkinsgb This was the case in the previous version and you suggested that I change what I did. Take a look at the previous photos. So I have to return to the original version. Red - 5+, yellow - in, black with blue - ground, white - out, empty - 3.3V

                                            Władekcz

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