Euclid probe kit with hardware in EU?

sinned6915

@gixxerfast thanks for your interest! we are working on EU reseller.

zapta

@sinned6915, I was watching this Euclid on Voron V2.4 video. The docking station mount at a fixed Z and requires the endstop switch? Why not on the rear beam of the gantry, like the Clicky, eliminating the need for the endstop switch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMHCGlAa3Z8

PaulHew

I am getting the boards made by osh, I have ordered the special magnets
I can ship you a board, magnets and screws for magnets.
Will need a jst and microswitch or I can supply those as well.

I will be in France in 3 weeks time so can ship it from there to keep the postage costs down.

I am in the UK.

P.

PaulHew

@zapta said in Euclid probe kit with hardware in EU?:

@gixxerfast, you may want to check with @sinned6915, I think he is involved with it.

BTW, Steve from the Voron dev team had today a live episode where he installed an Euclid on Voron V2.4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpS2G_02OlQ

29mins in and he had put the magnets on the wrong side.....

Gixxerfast

@paulhew said in Euclid probe kit with hardware in EU?:

I can ship you a board, magnets and screws for magnets.

That would be really great, thanks Can I PM you here somehow with details? Not sure it's possible on the forum?

I've got switches and JSTs.

jay_s_uk

@paulhew got one spare?

PaulHew

@jay_s_uk I will have.
Magnets come thursday, boards whenever USPS gets them here!

I have a feeling I need to order more PCB's
I do have 100 pairs of magnet turning up....

I PM you guys.

sinned6915

@paulhew The Euclid license is Non-Commercial. Please do not resell my work.

sinned6915

@jay_s_uk DM and I will be happy to send you and gloomy official board and kits.

PaulHew

@sinned6915 Just as well I do not sell them. I give them away and charge postage.

sinned6915

@paulhew That goes agains the spirit of the license.

zapta

@paulhew said in Euclid probe kit with hardware in EU?:

29mins in and he had put the magnets on the wrong side.....

It's a live video so a significant social aspect (vs informative).

We should have similar videos for the Duet/RRF where dc42 edits config files with live user comments and donations.

PCR

@paulhew magnets here too! Can you PM me?

PCR

@sinned6915 the biggest problem is sadly the magnets in Europe....;(

oliof

@sinned6915 so you are saying it's against the license to give away the probe for free? That's an interesting interpretation of the CC-BY-NC-SA and proves once again that it's important to stick with OSI approved open source licenses that guarantee the four freedoms.

I guess I'll stay away from the Euclid probe then because you're basically saying I couldn't sell or give away for free a printer with the Euclid probe fitted on to it.

PCR

@oliof https://lukeslabonline.com/products/euclid-probe-kit?_pos=1&_sid=860330177&_ss=r

Hmm

oliof

@pcr doesn't matter, that could be under another direct agreement with sinned -- I am just reacting to what they wrote above.

zapta

@oliof, since it's not a patent, a new pcb design should address the copyright issue.

I am happy with the Clicky design which is simpler and pcb-less.

oliof

@zapta depends on whether sinned would go after people claiming it'd be a derivative. The idea is poisoned for iteration by third parties, and there's not much to do about it.

Also, klicky probe is GPL 3.0 but references Euclid and Quickdraw as inspirations, which has an even worse license from an Open Source point of view. If we're lucky, this will never be lawyered out, but if even giving away probes for free is considered "not in spirit with the license" then I am not optimistic.

I think the only way this idea is salvagable for Open Source usage if there's a similar design that's prior art and properly licensed.

zapta

@oliof said in Euclid probe kit with hardware in EU?:

@zapta depends on whether sinned would go after people claiming it'd be a derivative.

Copyright protect the specific expression (e.g. documentation, PCB layout, etc) but not the method (a stow away electro mechanical probe), structure (a pcb with two magnets and a connector), dimensions (distance between magnets) or functional aspects.

BTW, @sinned6915, did you come up with the idea of a stow away probe with an electromechanical switch and conduction through a magnetic coupler or is it based on previous works?