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    • rjenkinsgbundefined
      rjenkinsgb
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      @luca-massimiliano said in LE TORRI NEL GRAFICO:

      grazie alan ti chiedo mi puoi dire la posizioni delle 3 torri sul asse x y del grafico ? grazie

      I built a Kossel recently and went through all this setup.

      To work out the towers, jog the machine in X.
      That will move left<>right when you are at the "front" of whatever arrangement you presently have.

      Y will move towards<>away from the "rear" tower.

      Re-arrange the motor cables (and limit switch cables) to get the actual front at the position it should be.

      Then, X+ should move to the right and X- to the left; if it moves the opposite way, swap the two front motor cables.

      That should put all the motors/towers in the correct position so the heightmap is as seen from the front of the machine.

      Robert J.

      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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      • luca Massimilianoundefined
        luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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        @luca-massimiliano SCUSA UNA DOMANDA MA QUESTA MACCHINA HA SEMPRE STAMPATO , MA SEMPRE CON IQUESTO GRAFICO . DETTO QUESTO POSSONO ESSERRE SEMPRE I FILI INVERTI DEI MOTORI? OPPURE NO?4aa7fad0-01ad-427b-b3cc-ac0aedb9dfed-image.png

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        • luca Massimilianoundefined
          luca Massimiliano @rjenkinsgb
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          @rjenkinsgb ECCO LE CORDINATE E LE TORRI SULLA STAMPANTE e4ac22cf-2b3f-4809-a857-482ffda5017b-image.png , ORA TRASLANDO LE X E Y SUL GRAFICO CONCIDONO LE TORRI , IL PSITIVO E NEGATIVO CHIEDO A TE SE E' GIUSTO . A ME SEMBRA CORRETO

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          • alankilianundefined
            alankilian @luca Massimiliano
            last edited by alankilian

            @luca-massimiliano

            That matches my machine.

            Did you follow the instructions in calibrating a Delta I sent earlier exactly?
            Can you post the results of M665, M666 and M558?

            Here are mine:

            m666
            Endstop adjustments X0.20 Y-0.65 Z0.44, tilt X0.00% Y0.00%
            
            m665
            Diagonals 291.060:291.060:291.060, delta radius 144.000, homed height 400.186, bed radius 132.5, X -0.223°, Y -0.216°, Z 0.000°
            
            m558
            Z Probe 0: type 1, input pin zprobe.in, output pin nil, dive height 10.0mm, probe speeds 3000,3000mm/min, travel speed 6000mm/min, recovery time 0.00 sec, heaters normal, max taps 1, max diff 0.03
            

            SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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            • luca Massimilianoundefined
              luca Massimiliano @alankilian
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              @alankilian said in LE TORRI NEL GRAFICO:

              m558

              1bfdcc8d-8368-48da-9d39-cf11735e30c9-image.png TIENI CONTO CHE ENDSTO Z L HO SPOSTATO PEGGIORANDO LA SITUAZIONE (IL MIO PROSSIMO PASSO SARA' LA SISTEMAZIONE DEGLI END STOP , ANCHE SE NON RIESCO VISTO LA DISTANZA DEL LETTO A FARE MISURAZIONI PRECISE )

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              • alankilianundefined
                alankilian @luca Massimiliano
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                @luca-massimiliano

                It looks like I have my endstops adjusted a little better than yours as well as the angle of the rails.

                Maybe you could spend some time getting those adjusted better and see if it makes your bed probing produce a flatter heightmap.

                SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                • rjenkinsgbundefined
                  rjenkinsgb @luca Massimiliano
                  last edited by rjenkinsgb

                  @luca-massimiliano said in LE TORRI NEL GRAFICO:

                  ECCO LE CORDINATE E LE TORRI SULLA STAMPANTE

                  Ok, the "front" is -Y, between XT and YT.
                  XT is the corner of the graph with the red-green-blue axis indicators.

                  As alankillian says, try to get the mechanical setup as accurate as possible first.

                  Create a bed.g with settings 10-6-6 and as large a radius as you can, without the probe missing the bed:
                  http://www.escher3d.com/pages/wizards/wizardbed.php

                  Then run G32 several times! Each should improve the compensation values in the M665 and M666 lines.

                  Then use M500 to save the final ones, and add M501 at the end of your config to load the config-override file, if you do not already have it.

                  Hopefully that will give a better heightmap result!

                  Robert J.

                  Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                  • luca Massimilianoundefined
                    luca Massimiliano @alankilian
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                    @alankilian GRAZIE , CON LAIUTO TUO E DI TUTTI ,SONO RIUSCITO AD OTTENERE NOTEVOLI MIGLIORAMENTI DEL GRAFICO, QUESTO MI HA FATTO CAPIRE IL POSSIBILE PROBLEMA , LA DEFORMAZIONE NEL TEMPO NON HA PIU' UNA CORRETA GEOMETRIA NELLA PARTE SOPRA , PROVVEDERO' A SISTEMARLA.

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                    • luca Massimilianoundefined
                      luca Massimiliano @alankilian
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                      @alankilian DOVE SI MODIFICA LA RAPPRESENTAZIOE GRAFICA DA QUADRATA A CIRCOLARE ?

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                      • alankilianundefined
                        alankilian @luca Massimiliano
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                        @luca-massimiliano

                        What software are you using to make that image?

                        SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                        • luca Massimilianoundefined
                          luca Massimiliano @alankilian
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                          @alankilian Elettronica
                          Diagnostica
                          Scheda: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)
                          Firmware: RepRapFirmware per Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.2.2 (2021-02-11)
                          Duet WiFi Server Versione: 1.23

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                            luca Massimiliano @luca Massimiliano
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                            @luca-massimiliano ciao ora ho ottenuto un risultato accettabile ,inserendo modificando co i vari comandi M665 R LB130 H ,M303 per heater , eccetera , salvai con m500 quindi la stampante si accende bene con tutti i dati , ma nel config .g non vengono riportati questi nuovi dati, e' possibile trasferire i dati nella memoria della scheda di Duet . in un file ? grazie cordiali saluti

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @luca Massimiliano
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                              @luca-massimiliano said in LE TORRI NEL GRAFICO:

                              hello now I have obtained an acceptable result, inserting by modifying with the various commands M665 R LB130 H, M303 for heater, etc., I saved with m500 then the printer turns on well with all the data, but in the config .g they are not given these new data, it is possible to transfer the data to the memory of the Duet card. in a file? thank you

                              M500 saves the data to config-override.g. You must then add M501 to the end of config.g to load the values at startup.

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                              • luca Massimilianoundefined
                                luca Massimiliano @Phaedrux
                                last edited by luca Massimiliano

                                @phaedrux said in LE TORRI NEL GRAFICO:

                                M500
                                grazie. ora ho stampato ma il pezzo e' fuori scala , ho modificato M665 L306.17 e ho con un nuovo valore calcolato, ora stampa in scala , ma se do il comando G0 Y-130,X0,Z0, non parte proprio se do G0 Y-125,X0,Z0, ci va (le braccia Z della torre sono al Limite non vanno oltre . ma se riporto M665 L306.17 il comando G0 Y-130,X0,Z0 funziona . come posso risolvere ?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  thank you. now I have printed but the piece is out of scale, I have modified M665 L306.17 and I have with a new calculated value, now it prints to scale, but if I give the command G0 Y-130, X0, Z0, it does not start just if I give G0 Y-125, X0, Z0, it goes there (the Z arms of the tower are at the Limit they do not go beyond. But if I carry M665 L306.17 the command G0 Y-130, X0, Z0 works. How can I solve?

                                  I think you need to redo your calibration.

                                  https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Delta_calibration

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                                  • luca Massimilianoundefined
                                    luca Massimiliano @Phaedrux
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                                    @phaedrux RIFORMULO LA DOMANDA LE MIE ASTE MISURATE SONO M665 L 335 , MA L OGGETTO STAMPATO E' PIU PICCOLO DEL REALE. COME POSSO RISOLVERE?

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @luca Massimiliano
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                                      @luca-massimiliano said in LE TORRI NEL GRAFICO:

                                      @phaedrux RIFORMULO LA DOMANDA LE MIE ASTE MISURATE SONO M665 L 335 , MA L OGGETTO STAMPATO E' PIU PICCOLO DEL REALE. COME POSSO RISOLVERE?

                                      I REFORM THE REQUEST MY MEASURED RODS ARE M665 L 335, BUT THE PRINTED OBJECT IS SMALLER THAN THE REAL. HOW CAN I SOLVE?

                                      Have you done an auto calibration? G32?

                                      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Delta_calibration#auto-calibration

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                                      • luca Massimilianoundefined
                                        luca Massimiliano @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by luca Massimiliano

                                        @phaedrux si ho ricevuto il messaggio G32 Error: Auto calibration failed because probe point P3 was unreachable using the current delta parameters. Try a smaller probing radius. ho provato a diminuire il raggi fino 90 da b130 originale ma da sempe lo stesso errore.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          I'm not a delta user myself, so I'm afraid I'm not much help here. Typically though the way forward is to start from the beginning with the calibration of the machine.

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                                          • luca Massimilianoundefined
                                            luca Massimiliano @alankilian
                                            last edited by luca Massimiliano

                                            @alankilian Ciao, ho modificato m665 l premetto che la stampante stampa ma ecco i problemi, per stampare nelle le dimensione corrette tutto ok , ho lanciato un G0 Y-130 dove 130 e' il raggio bed e non arriva fisicamente con le braccia ( mi sembra che sia tutto piu' grande) e se lancio un G32 lo esegue mi dice di diminuire il raggio bed ,lho fatto nessun risultato . G32
                                            Error: Auto calibration failed because probe point P3 was unreachable using the current delta parameters. Try a smaller probing radius.

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