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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @tecno
      last edited by

      @tecno the instructions on the page I linked to tell you to put the printer into relative movement mode first.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        tecno @dc42
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        @dc42
        Missed G91

        But still no movement

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @tecno
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          Now that my endstops are working I hope I can get help with motors.

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @Phaedrux
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            @phaedrux said in The tower motors ..... H E L P:

            drivers might work if segmentation is enabled

            So how do I activate segmentation if M669 is not to be used on Delta?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @tecno
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              @tecno use M665 to set delta kinematics and the delta parameters first. Then use M669 with just S and T parameters (no K parameter) to enable segmentation.

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @dc42
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                @dc42
                ; General preferences
                M575 P1 S0 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M550 P"BigDelta" ; set printer name
                M665 R300 L615 B275 H570 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                M669 S1 T1 ; kinematics linear delta
                M564 H0 S0 ; allow axis movement not homed

                Still nothing

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                • gloomyandyundefined
                  gloomyandy @tecno
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                  @tecno Do your drivers/motors work at all? What happens if you simply set them up using standard cartesian kinematics, can you move them then?

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                    tecno @gloomyandy
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                    @gloomyandy

                    What lines to change?

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                    • gloomyandyundefined
                      gloomyandy @tecno
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                      @tecno As I asked above, have you ever had your motors/drivers working with your current control board at all?

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                        • tecnoundefined
                          tecno @gloomyandy
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                          @gloomyandy

                          Mini5 eth + 3pcs 1XD to DM556, so not with that configuration.

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @A Former User
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                            @arnold_r_clark

                            Can be done but the motors need high current so the Mini is not up to the task

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @tecno
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                              @tecno said in The tower motors ..... H E L P:

                              @dc42
                              Missed G91

                              But still no movement

                              It could mean that the enable polarity is wrong. Some questions:

                              • How did you wire the external drivers to the 1XD boards?
                              • Before you power up the drivers and the Duet, do the tower carriages move freely?
                              • After you power up and before you send any commands, do the carriages move freely or are they locked?
                              • After you command a motor using a G91 G1 H2 command, does the carriage move freely or is it locked?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                tecno @dc42
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                                @dc42
                                https://docs.duet3d.com/duet_boards/duet_3_can_expansion/duet_3_1xd_v1.0_wiring_03.png

                                Yes
                                Same as above
                                Same as above

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                                  tecno @tecno
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                                  44e55688-0ab8-4707-be4a-d4d82f721da5-image.png

                                  My motors are the last listed -2804

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @tecno
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                                    @tecno said in The tower motors ..... H E L P:

                                    @dc42
                                    https://docs.duet3d.com/duet_boards/duet_3_can_expansion/duet_3_1xd_v1.0_wiring_03.png

                                    Yes
                                    Same as above
                                    Same as above

                                    Thanks. Your wiring link suggests that you have connected the Enable inputs of the drivers to the 1XD boards. So if you have set the Enable polarity correctly, the carriages should move freely before you command them to move, and after that (or when you use M17) they should lock. The fact that they are not locking suggests one of the following:

                                    • Power is not being supplied to your external drivers
                                    • Motor is not connected correctly to external driver
                                    • Configuration of external driver incorrect
                                    • Configuration of RRF is incorrect, so that it is not commanding the 1XD boards to move the motors

                                    Please run the following command and report any error messages that you see:

                                    M98 P"config.g"

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                                      tecno @dc42
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                                      @dc42

                                      36V
                                      Connected as per docs
                                      ?
                                      2022-06-03 18:54:47 M98 P"config.g"
                                      HTTP is enabled on port 80
                                      FTP is enabled on port 21
                                      TELNET is enabled on port 23
                                      Error: Setting not available for external drivers
                                      Setting not available for external drivers
                                      Setting not available for external drivers

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                                        tecno @tecno
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                                        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue May 31 2022 17:03:35 GMT+0200 (centraleuropeisk sommartid)

                                        ; General preferences
                                        M575 P1 S0 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                                        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"BigDelta" ; set printer name
                                        M665 R300 L615 B275 H570 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                                        M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                                        M669 S1 T1 ; kinematics linear delta
                                        M564 H0 S0 ; allow axis movement not homed

                                        ; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
                                        G4 S2

                                        ; Network
                                        M551 P"bengt" ; set password
                                        M552 P192.168.1.124 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                                        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                        M586 P1 S1 ; enable FTP
                                        M586 P2 S1 ; enable Telnet

                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P40.0 S1 R1 T10:10:10:10 ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P41.0 S1 R1 T10:10:10:10 ; physical drive 122.0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P42.0 S1 R1 T10:10:10:10 ; physical drive 123.0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                        M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0 ; set drive mapping
                                        M350 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation X16 Y16 Z16
                                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E663.00 ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 Z0 S1 ; set minimum Z

                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X2 S1 P"40.io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
                                        M574 Y2 S1 P"41.io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
                                        M574 Z2 S1 P"42.io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in

                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M558 P5 R0.4 C"io3.in+io4.out" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                                        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                        M557 R85 S20 ; define mesh grid

                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                        M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                        M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                        M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                        ; Fans
                                        M950 F0 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M950 F1 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P1 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 1
                                        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                                        G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                        ; Custom settings are not defined

                                        ; Miscellaneous
                                        ;M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @tecno
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                                          Have been trying to search the forum what this Setting not available for external drivers is caused but cannot not find anything.

                                          M98 P"config.g"
                                          HTTP is enabled on port 80
                                          FTP is enabled on port 21
                                          TELNET is enabled on port 23
                                          Error: Setting not available for external drivers
                                          Setting not available for external drivers
                                          Setting not available for external drivers

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                                          • gloomyandyundefined
                                            gloomyandy @tecno
                                            last edited by

                                            @tecno Have you tried removing X, Y and Z from your M906 command, you can't set the current for external drivers.

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