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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by fcwilt

      Hi

      I finally got a print head design, for my E3D Motion System printer, that meets most of my criteria, fits in the space available and minimizes the tool offsets yielding a printable area of 300 x 200.

      It uses a LDO Orbiter v2.5 and a E3D Revo Micro. It includes a micro switch to sense with a tool is mounted.

      One of the tool boards is for the tool changer and the other for the tool itself.

      It is not pretty but it works, so far.

      MOSYS ToolHead v1 - FRONT.jpg

      MOSYS ToolHead v1 - REAR.jpg

      The final step is to see if I can add a scanning Z probe somewhere.

      All the parts are actually printed in gray, the colors here just make editing the model easier.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt on my TC I have the SZP mounted on the tool pickup.

        2025-03-17 08.11.41.jpg

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @dc42
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          @dc42

          I've added nothing to the bottom so that space is free for the sensing coil.

          I should be able to mount the board to the side of the housing.

          I'm using the tool distribution board (TDB) so the CAN bus runs from the TDB to the each tool board and back, utilizing the termination on the TDB.

          Can I stub the CAN bus for the SZP controller board off of the CAN bus to the tool board?

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @fcwilt
            last edited by

            @fcwilt said in A curious printhead for the E3D Motion System:

            Can I stub the CAN bus for the SZP controller board off of the CAN bus to the tool board?

            Yes you can. It may be convenient to make the SZP the last board on the CAN bus and to enable its termination resistor. You can try getting 5V power for the SZP from the IO0 connector on the tool board, but check that the tool board doesn't get too hot because it uses a linear 5V regulator.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • gloomyandyundefined
              gloomyandy @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt Wouldn't it be easier to use a roto or other toolboard that has the SZP built into it for the toolchanger board? I'm currently using one of the Fly boards on my e3d toolchanger for exactly that purpose.

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @gloomyandy
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                @gloomyandy said in A curious printhead for the E3D Motion System:

                @fcwilt Wouldn't it be easier to use a roto or other toolboard that has the SZP built into it for the toolchanger board? I'm currently using one of the Fly boards on my e3d toolchanger for exactly that purpose.

                Never heard of them.

                Do you have a link or a product name I could search on?

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt https://teamgloomy.github.io/fly_sht36_max_v3_general.html

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @jay_s_uk
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                    @jay_s_uk said in A curious printhead for the E3D Motion System:

                    @fcwilt https://teamgloomy.github.io/fly_sht36_max_v3_general.html

                    This unit?

                    FLY SHT36 Max V3.jpg

                    Why the non-rectangular shape? Is it designed to fit something in particular?

                    Thanks.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt thats the one.
                      Fits on the back of a nema 14. Most extruder designs use these now

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @jay_s_uk
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                        @jay_s_uk said in A curious printhead for the E3D Motion System:

                        @fcwilt thats the one.
                        Fits on the back of a nema 14. Most extruder designs use these now

                        Is the sensing coil included or is that a separate item?

                        Thanks.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @fcwilt
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt included

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by

                            @jay_s_uk

                            Thanks much.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • gloomyandyundefined
                              gloomyandy @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt Or you could use the Duet Roto Toolboard, that also has the SZP built in. https://www.duet3d.com/Duet3RotoToolboard

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @gloomyandy
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                                @gloomyandy said in A curious printhead for the E3D Motion System:

                                @fcwilt Or you could use the Duet Roto Toolboard, that also has the SZP built in. https://www.duet3d.com/Duet3RotoToolboard

                                That is new to me.

                                And the BEST part - I get to buy new tools and spare parts for the connectors I've never seen before!

                                Thanks for the info. I will check it out.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @gloomyandy
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                                  @gloomyandy

                                  I downloaded the step file for the tool board you mentioned but it has some funny bits.

                                  E3D Toolboard Revo Roto White Dots.jpg

                                  What are all those little white dots?

                                  Perhaps the file needs some work?

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • gloomyandyundefined
                                    gloomyandy @fcwilt
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                                    @fcwilt I've no idea, perhaps one of the Duet folks knows? @droftarts ?

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