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    Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren
    last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 02:54

    @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

    Suggestions?

    What exactly is your M106 fan command in config.g right now?
    If you send M106 P0 S1 H-1 in the gcode console does it turn on?

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      deckingman @Bewaren
      last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 05:35

      @bewaren You also need to have tool selected. The easiest way to do that is to add T0 to the end of your config.g file.

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        dc42 administrators @deckingman
        last edited by dc42 29 Jul 2019, 05:51

        @deckingman said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

        @bewaren You also need to have tool selected. The easiest way to do that is to add T0 to the end of your config.g file.

        If the print cooling fan is connected to the Fan0 output, you don't need to select a tool to run it.

        @Bewaren, does the fan run if you connect it to an always-on fan output?

        M106 P0 S0.1 I0 F500 H T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

        That line in config.g was wrong. The H without a number after it will be interpreted as H0. Remove the H, or change it to H-1.

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          Bewaren @Phaedrux
          last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 13:26

          @phaedrux M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 this is my current fan command

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            Bewaren @deckingman
            last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 13:27

            @deckingman Tool is selected yes, still nothing though

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              Bewaren @dc42
              last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 13:28

              @dc42 M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 is the line now, still no luck, it also doesn't work even when connected to the always-on fan outputs, but I have tried 3 different fans, all brand new, very unlikely all 3 are faulty.

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                Bewaren
                last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 13:41

                @phaedrux Tried sending M106 P0 S1 H-1, it did nothing

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                  Bewaren
                  last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 13:42

                  Tried another pack of 24v fans and a 12v fan, 12v fan was over voltaged but worked, 24v fans did nothing, is there somewhere I have to define that the fans I am using are 24v?

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren
                    last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 14:41

                    @bewaren it really seems like the 24v fans are dead.

                    Can you setup a test with just power from the 24v PSU directly to the fans to remove the duet completely from the equation?

                    If the 12v fans work but the 24v don't then it must be the 24v fan that isn't working. You can carefully measure the voltage on the fan pins to verify.

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                      dc42 administrators @Bewaren
                      last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 15:48

                      @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                      Tried another pack of 24v fans and a 12v fan, 12v fan was over voltage but worked, 24v fans did nothing, is there somewhere I have to define that the fans I am using are 24v?

                      Are you sure that you have the VFAN jumper set to VIN, not to 5V?

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                        Bewaren @dc42
                        last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 15:57

                        @dc42 I am unsure, what pins should I have the jumper on?, its currently on the two right hand pins if looking at it from: https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/YN2oahyGpcPNN1Pw.huge | assuming that the jumper in question is the 3 pin one central to the 5 fan pins.

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                          dc42 administrators @Bewaren
                          last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 16:00

                          @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                          @dc42 I am unsure, what pins should I have the jumper on?, its currently on the two right hand pins if looking at it from: https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/YN2oahyGpcPNN1Pw.huge | assuming that the jumper in question is the 3 pin one central to the 5 fan pins.

                          That's correct, it's the right hand position if you are looking at the Duet with the stepper motor outputs at the top.

                          To state the obvious: are you sure that the Duet is receiving 24V? If you send M122 to the Duet, the diagnostic report will include the VIN voltage.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                            Bewaren @dc42
                            last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 16:02

                            @dc42 M122
                            === Diagnostics ===
                            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later
                            Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MSD-6JKDA-3SN6Q-TST39
                            Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (6 max)
                            === RTOS ===
                            Static ram: 25680
                            Dynamic ram: 93280 of which 380 recycled
                            Exception stack ram used: 260
                            Never used ram: 11472
                            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,652) HEAT(blocked,1236) MAIN(running,3780) IDLE(ready,160)
                            Owned mutexes:
                            === Platform ===
                            Last reset 00:00:19 ago, cause: power up
                            Last software reset at 2019-07-29 14:33, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11472 bytes (slot 3)
                            Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                            Error status: 0
                            Free file entries: 10
                            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                            SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                            MCU temperature: min -64.2, current -57.9, max -57.9
                            Supply voltage: min 16.7, current 16.9, max 17.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                            Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                            Date/time: 2019-07-29 17:01:52
                            Cache data hit count 44910390
                            Slowest loop: 1.10ms; fastest: 0.07ms
                            I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                            === Move ===
                            Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 169, MaxWait: 0ms
                            Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                            === DDARing ===
                            Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                            === Heat ===
                            Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                            === GCodes ===
                            Segments left: 0
                            Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
                            Movement lock held by null
                            http is idle in state(s) 0
                            telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                            file is idle in state(s) 0
                            serial is idle in state(s) 0
                            aux is assembling a command in state(s) 0
                            daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                            queue is idle in state(s) 0
                            autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                            Code queue is empty.
                            === Network ===
                            Slowest loop: 4.33ms; fastest: 0.02ms
                            Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                            Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex

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                              Bewaren
                              last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 16:03

                              From what I can tell its getting 17v?, I may be incorrect though

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                                dc42 administrators @Bewaren
                                last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 17:16

                                @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                                From what I can tell its getting 17v?, I may be incorrect though

                                Is your mains voltage 120V? If so, check whether your PSU has an input voltage selector switch that is set to 230V.

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                                  Bewaren
                                  last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 17:50

                                  The PSU is set to 220v atm. Could it be that the PSU is faulty or have I maybe bought a PSU that wont work with this board?, this is what I am using.

                                  https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071W121H7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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                                    dc42 administrators @Bewaren
                                    last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 18:36

                                    @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                                    The PSU is set to 220v atm. Could it be that the PSU is faulty or have I maybe bought a PSU that wont work with this board?, this is what I am using.

                                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071W121H7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                                    That PSU looks OK unless you are using a high powered bed heater.

                                    What is your local mains voltage? Your profile doesn't give your location.

                                    If you have a multimeter, use it to measure the voltage across the VIN terminals.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                      Bewaren @dc42
                                      last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 18:52

                                      @dc42 UK, so 230v, bed heater isn't high powered, just turned the printer back on and it seems the PSU has bust, pop and on inspection one of the caps inside has gone, ordering a new one today so will test the VIN terminals tomorrow, but potentially the PSU has been the cause of the issue all along?

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by 29 Jul 2019, 19:12

                                        That would explain the over volt on the 12v fans and not working 24v fans

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                                          Bewaren
                                          last edited by 31 Aug 2019, 19:21

                                          New PSU and still no luck with getting the 24v cooling fan to work, its wired too PWM fan0, I am really unsure as to what the issue could be at this point, any ideas would be great @dc42 @Phaedrux

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