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    • Kaizerundefined
      Kaizer
      last edited by Kaizer

      Hi,
      I just finished upgrading my CR-10S with Duet 2 wifi. Tried to do 1st print and failed miserably.
      When its printing, i cant see any filament being extruded. the gears are moving but nothing, and i also hear clicking sound from my extruder. Im so confused on what is going on. Esteps calibration using G1 E100 F100 works well. Using the extude button from the web-interface also works well. Checked the flow when calibrating Estep and i can see its not clogging. Infact its so smooth. It only happens when i try to print something. Im using PrusaSlicer with RepRap as the G-code flavor. Can anyone help me fix this? My extruder are working fine if its not printing. FYI : tried Simplify3d too. same issue.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        post your config. what temperature are you printing at?

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        • Kaizerundefined
          Kaizer
          last edited by

          ; Drives
          M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
          M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
          M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
          M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
          M569 P4 S0 ; physical drive 4 goes backwards
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 E4 ; set drive mapping
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z400.00:400.00 E415.00 ; set steps per mm
          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z24.00:24.00 E300.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X12000 Y12000 Z2000.00:2000.00 E6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00:100.00: E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X750 Y750 Z750:750 E650 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
          M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; set active high endstops

          ; Z-Probe
          M574 Z1 S2 ; set endstops controlled by probe
          M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
          M558 P9 H5 F420 T6000 A3 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P500 X32 Y-2 Z5.19 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X32:300 Y10:300 S134 ; define mesh grid

          ; Heaters
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

          ; Fans
          M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
          M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Custom settings are not defined

          ; Miscellaneous
          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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          • Kaizerundefined
            Kaizer
            last edited by

            Print Temp is the same as to when i calibrate Esteps. so i dont think is not hot enough.

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            • Kaizerundefined
              Kaizer
              last edited by

              M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 E4 ; set drive mapping
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z400.00:400.00 E415.00 ; set steps per mm
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z24.00:24.00 E300.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X12000 Y12000 Z2000.00:2000.00 E6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00:100.00: E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X750 Y750 Z750:750 E650 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

              as to why i have 2 Z settings. if i dont do it like this. my extruder wont even move.

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @Kaizer
                last edited by

                @Kaizer I can see why you need to set two Z drivers. You have defined the extruder to use drive 4 in your M584. By default the first extruder (extruder 0) would be drive 3 and the second extruder (extruder 1) would be drive 4. Now in your tool definition you use drive 0. So if you don't define drive 3 as anything, then the firmware reverts to it's default and sets extruder 0 as using drive 3 so your extruder on drive 4 would become extruder 1. In that case, your tool, definition (M584) should use D1 not D0.

                So you have several options. The simplest is to move the extruder to drive 3 and set the Z to only use drive 2. Or, if you really want to use drive 4, define the tool to use D1 not D0.

                As for no filament coming out when you print, you probably just need to have a T0 command somewhere to select a tool. Either at the end of your config.g or in the slicer start code.

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • boldnutsundefined
                  boldnuts
                  last edited by

                  Do you your slicer set to relative extrusion and 1.75mm filament dia?

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @Kaizer
                    last edited by

                    @Kaizer said in BondTech CR-10S Extrusion Problem:

                    M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                    M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

                    also you are most likely printing at the wrong temperature. B4138 is the default and most likely wrong for your thermistors.

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                    • Kaizerundefined
                      Kaizer @deckingman
                      last edited by

                      @deckingman Thanks. It makes a lot of sense now.
                      My Slicer start Gcode is only
                      G28 ; home all axes
                      G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle

                      should i add T0 as u said? if yes can u give me an example of the completed code?

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                      • Kaizerundefined
                        Kaizer @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti i see, Im actually wondering about it too. but since i dont know much about it. i just leave it as is and do a temperature tower later on.

                        Im using the stock Bed thermistor for CR-10S and E3D V6 Tube Thermistor for my hotend. i dont know what their names are so idk what to set my thermistor as. if you know, mind sharing it? thanks.

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @Kaizer
                          last edited by

                          @Kaizer Literally, it's just "TO" on a new line (without the quotes). So:

                          G28 ; home all axes
                          G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle
                          T0

                          or put the T0 first if you need to heat the hot end before homing.

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • Kaizerundefined
                            Kaizer @deckingman
                            last edited by

                            @deckingman Thanks alot. will give it a try now.

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @Kaizer
                              last edited by

                              @Kaizer said in BondTech CR-10S Extrusion Problem:

                              E3D V6

                              if its a genuine E3D the settings are: B4725 C7.060000e-8

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                              • Kaizerundefined
                                Kaizer @Veti
                                last edited by Kaizer

                                @Veti Thanks, so its gonna be

                                M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

                                ?

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  correct. the r parameter is not required as will be replaced by the correct one for your board.

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                                  • Kaizerundefined
                                    Kaizer @Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    @Veti what do u mean by r parameter? sorry i dont really understand programming language.

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @Kaizer said in BondTech CR-10S Extrusion Problem:

                                      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0

                                      R4700. That is optional and not required as its the default value.

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                                      • Kaizerundefined
                                        Kaizer @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti i see, Thanks a lot.

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                                        • Kaizerundefined
                                          Kaizer @deckingman
                                          last edited by

                                          @deckingman Thanks for the help. it works fine now. 👍 👌

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                                          • deckingmanundefined
                                            deckingman @Kaizer
                                            last edited by

                                            @Kaizer Glad you are sorted. ☺

                                            Ian
                                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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