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    matt3o
    last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 09:17

    I've built a corexy and I found a cable with 12x0.22mm² + 2x0.75mm² wires (about AWG24 + 18). That would be just enough for 2 fans+thermistor+probe+heater+stepper. I was wondering what could be a nice connector I could use able to handle the 50W heater (and everything else) and possibly that is not bigger than the head itself 🙂

    The best I could think of is a D-SUB DB15 or VGA, looking at some datasheet they claim 5A per contact which is insane 🙂 but maybe you are aware of some better connector.

    thanks!

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      Veti
      last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 10:42

      xt60 for hotend and cat5+rj45 for everything else.

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        Dougal1957 @matt3o
        last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 10:45

        @matt3o Molex Microfit 3

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          A Former User
          last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 11:33

          i found this quite interesting, although I doubt i'll try it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-izkShIDXU

          (XT60 is a nice connector for high current, but its rated for 60A and just ever so slightly overkill for a hotend)

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            Danal
            last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 13:35

            Use a D-Sub whatever, with pins in parallel for the heater.

            Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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              DaBit
              last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 14:10

              Another vote for the D-sub, but the regular 2-row type. Much easier to solder on, more robust pins.
              D-subs are very robust connectors for very little money.

              There is also a smaller XT connector BTW: the XT30.

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                oliverracing
                last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 14:16

                Was about to ask a very similar questions but minus the probe, Dsub 15 looks like it'll do the trick very nicely!

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                  Dougal1957
                  last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 14:25

                  I would still recommend the Molex Microfit 3.0 series which can be had unto 24 way so more than enough also much lighter than D-Sub connectors.

                  Microfit 3.0 series

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                    gtj0
                    last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 14:40

                    I use the microfits in other places and like them but I also use RJ45 for the hot-end signal and low power stuff and simple spade connectors for the hot-end.

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                      Danal
                      last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 15:15

                      @Dougal1957 said in any suggestion for a connector for the printhead?:

                      Molex Microfit 3.0 series

                      I've used these on other things, and they do work very well. Were it me, I'd be comfortable with my own "psuedo-standard" connector for a standard tool, meaning:

                      • Stepper (4)
                      • Sensor/thermistor (2)
                      • Heater (2)
                      • Hot end fan (2)
                      • Part fan (2)
                      • Sensor for tool alignment(2)

                      Total 14, with no allowance for future expansion.

                      From USA supplier Mouser, 16 position are actually slightly cheaper than 14, and I like the expansion possibility:

                      Receptacle Pins
                      Plug Pins

                      With no expansion, and no extra sensor, 10 position will work.

                      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                        matt3o
                        last edited by 17 Jan 2020, 16:49

                        thanks guys, haven't though about using molex, but it actually makes sense. way easier to handle than dsubs and more flexible!

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                          bricor @matt3o
                          last edited by 18 Jan 2020, 05:03

                          @matt3o Not sure if this would work for you (see pics).

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                          Using extension/adapter cables or adding connectors to a harness adds bulk and creates potential failure points.

                          I found this method to be the best. If anything needs to be changed, its simple. Supports up to 16 terminal points.

                          All that's missing is a printed label plaque

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                            matt3o @bricor
                            last edited by 18 Jan 2020, 07:04

                            @bricor thanks, that is also pretty clever and super easy if you need to change parts

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                              littlehobbyshop
                              last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 16:35

                              Check out this project:
                              https://www.hackster.io/viktorsilivanov/quick-swap-board-for-3d-printer-hotend-fb26e4

                              @matt3o I'd be interested to know where you found that cable.

                              I had some boards made and have populated but not installed yet, they'll be part of a new build.
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                              BLV MGN Cube w/Hemera, K8200, Sunlu S8

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                                zapta
                                last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 17:24

                                Just a thought, you can distribute high currents over two wires and/or contacts. This may give you more flexibility. Also, Some wires can be merged, e.g. the +24V for heater and fans.

                                (Duet people mentioned in the past a possibility for smart head board that just need power and CANBUS data, this would make requirements like yours easier to solve).

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                                  matt3o
                                  last edited by matt3o 20 Jan 2020, 10:58

                                  @littlehobbyshop that is very close that what I was planning to do, with less fancy PCB and more DIY 🙂 The cable is from a local supplier but I believe they can be easily found. They are sold as "security/alarm cables" they come in many variants.

                                  @zapta at the moment I'm only sharing the positive leads of the fans, that's all I need but I'll check what else I could share. thanks!

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                                    Danal
                                    last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 02:31

                                    So I decide to go the Molex Microfit way on a toolchanger. Purchased Molex 16 pin, m/f, pins, etc. Pleasantly enough, they were smaller than I'd thought.

                                    This is working out well, the connectors are great... but... do be aware it is labor intensive. Every wire going to a tool now requires three crimps. One for the Duet board, one for the male molex, and one for the female molex. I haven't even gotten one tool completely setup!

                                    Not saying anyone should/shouldn't... just be aware.

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                                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                      matt3o @Danal
                                      last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 07:26

                                      @Danal they are indeed smaller than I thought!

                                      I got used to crimping, that wouldn't be a big issue. Still not sure if I want to go with a more polished solution (like the one posted by @littlehobbyshop ).

                                      I've also found connectors with dedicated pins for power, but let's not go overboard 🙂

                                      thanks for your report btw!

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                                        avion23
                                        last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 11:27

                                        I'm using Wago 221 for everything.

                                        This relieves me from soldering and I can throw out the old fans without working.

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