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    • Turboundefined
      Turbo @Surgikill
      last edited by

      @Surgikill too tight is definitely a thing. maybe back up a little. you want it tight, but not as tight as you can possibly get.

      Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
      Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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      • arhiundefined
        arhi
        last edited by

        you can use the gates app to tighten the belts, it works by listening to sound your belts make when you "pull them" and tell you to tighten or loosen them, similar to all those guitar tuning programs only for belts 🙂

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        • Surgikillundefined
          Surgikill @arhi
          last edited by Surgikill

          @arhi I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the tip. Do you have a link? I'm on android, having a hard time finding it.

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          • mrehorstdmdundefined
            mrehorstdmd @Surgikill
            last edited by

            @Surgikill Maybe you can tighten the bushings. Cut the bushings lengthwise and make the bushing holder's clamping force adjustable with a screw.

            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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            • giostarkundefined
              giostark
              last edited by giostark

              How can this small play affect only small circles and not all the rest of the print?
              In theory at each segment change it should slide a little...
              The holes are more or less regular and look like an hexagon. (a little melted but not that much, so the hight temp should not be the culprit for the hexagon shape )
              Belts must be tied properly but the problem imho lied elsewhere.
              The slicer resolution is fine? (should be set at least as the nozzle size. Maybe is bigger?)
              Really curious to see what it is 😳

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              • mrehorstdmdundefined
                mrehorstdmd @giostark
                last edited by

                @giostark Small circles cause rapid direction changes which throw the loose parts around more than larger features of the print. It probably affects the larger features, too, but is more visible on the small ones.

                https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                • Surgikillundefined
                  Surgikill @mrehorstdmd
                  last edited by

                  @mrehorstdmd Yea, there are issues on the other parts, but not as bad. Any idea how I can fix the wiggle? I'm not sure if the aluminum rods would fix it.

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                  • arhiundefined
                    arhi @Surgikill
                    last edited by

                    @Surgikill I think it's this one:
                    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gates.carbondrivecalculator

                    or this

                    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gates.pttoolkit

                    both can be used i think

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                    • mrehorstdmdundefined
                      mrehorstdmd @Surgikill
                      last edited by

                      @Surgikill As I posted above, clamping the bushings down a little tighter on the rod would help. If they aren't made to be tightened, cutting a slit with a saw will allow them to be tightened by modifying the clamps that hold them to have screws that let you squeeze the bushings a little tighter on the rods.

                      https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                      • Surgikillundefined
                        Surgikill @mrehorstdmd
                        last edited by Surgikill

                        @mrehorstdmd They're held on with zip ties, so not sure how well that will work. it could be a printer issue besides the gantry. I have a print running right now so I can't mess with it. I've attached a picture, maybe that will help.

                        20200328_192249.jpg

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Are those maybe the type of bushings that require a certain amount of compressive force on them to get them to fit properly on the rod?

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                          • mrehorstdmdundefined
                            mrehorstdmd @Surgikill
                            last edited by

                            @Surgikill As you have discovered, zip ties are not a particularly good way to hold components of a precision mechanism together. I'd start with a redesign of the extruder carriage that allows those bearings to be securely fixed and also squeezes them down to fit the rods better.

                            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                            • jens55undefined
                              jens55
                              last edited by

                              At minimum, I would add a rubber band and some nailing wire !

                              (sorry, couldn't resist)

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                              • Surgikillundefined
                                Surgikill @mrehorstdmd
                                last edited by Surgikill

                                @mrehorstdmd Yea that's not happening. That is the redesign. I looked into bolting them on, and I lose a shitload of print volume, which is the whole point of this printer. I used the same design previously, and didn't have an issue. Also why I used 4 of them, instead of 2.

                                It's also hard to see, but there is a cutout for the linear bushings to line up in. Those zip ties are only holding it in that groove.

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                                • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                  mrehorstdmd @Surgikill
                                  last edited by mrehorstdmd

                                  @Surgikill Then you're back to looking for rails that match the diameter of the bushings. Good luck- you're going to need it.

                                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                  • Surgikillundefined
                                    Surgikill @mrehorstdmd
                                    last edited by

                                    @mrehorstdmd They're 12mm rods. I don't think that's the issue. As soon as this part is done, I'll show it to you, but after loosening the belts up a bit I don't see the carriage wobbling anymore, but the artifacts are still pronounced, even on large circles (3" diameter)

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                                    • jens55undefined
                                      jens55 @Surgikill
                                      last edited by

                                      @Surgikill, picture ?

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                                      • Surgikillundefined
                                        Surgikill @jens55
                                        last edited by

                                        @jens55 20200329_002613.jpg 20200329_002555.jpg

                                        @mrehorstdmd I might be able to use something like this. https://www.igus.com/product/1185

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                                        • jens55undefined
                                          jens55 @Surgikill
                                          last edited by jens55

                                          @Surgikill, I was looking for a picture of a round thing of 3" like you mentioned. Surely the first picture doesn't show a round object ... is it ? Sorry for not being clearer.

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                                          • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                            mrehorstdmd
                                            last edited by

                                            How fast do you print with that machine?

                                            Maybe you should use the Igus rails that match the bushings.

                                            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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