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    gtj0
    last edited by 2 Apr 2020, 23:23

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    Yes, that's peanut butter.
    No, it wasn't my idea... https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,642473,732969#msg-732969

    I haven't tried it before but it'd better work. That was supposed to be my lunch tomorrow.

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      jens55
      last edited by 2 Apr 2020, 23:31

      O M G !!!!

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 2 Apr 2020, 23:51

        I've read before that it's the emulsifiers in the peanut butter to keep the oils from separating. It breaks down the glue and allows the oils to get underneath it and breaks the bond. Mayonnaise also works well for the same reason.

        Orange oil cleaner works well to remove any remaining residue I use GooGone.

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          Danal
          last edited by 2 Apr 2020, 23:58

          Looks like over extrusion to me. Or first layer is just set wrong in the slicer.

          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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            gtj0
            last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 00:30

            Thinking about it... aren't you supposed to use peanut butter to get chewing gum out of kid's hair?

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              Phaedrux Moderator @gtj0
              last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 00:32

              That's just an old wives tale. ๐Ÿ™„

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                A Former User
                last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 05:32

                I had to double check the date .. ๐Ÿ˜„

                But damn, it sounds a lot healthier than soaking the board in acetone for a few minutes before scraping it off and several rounds of wiping the last bits off with more acetone.

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                  jens55
                  last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 05:56

                  mmmmmmm .... acetone smell .... I LOVE modern chemistry and all the wonders it can supply ๐Ÿ™‚ Goes together nicely with any kind of hot filament smell!
                  Peanut butter is better used for rat traps around here. The buggers just can't resist it ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    mrehorstdmd
                    last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 12:02

                    I have found that gel-type paint stripper removes the adhesive pretty thoroughly and easily. I brush it on and let it sit in a closed plastic box for a few hours, then use a plastic scraper to clean off the plate. A final wipe down with acetone cleans up whatever's left.

                    https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                      A Former User @mrehorstdmd
                      last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 12:08

                      @mrehorstdmd said in 486MP Adhesive Removal:

                      gel-type paint stripper

                      that might be a good one; any idea how it interacts with PCBs for those who have PCB based heaters?

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                        gtj0
                        last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 13:36

                        I've been pranked.
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                        Didn't do a damn thing except waste a couple of bucks worth of peanut butter.

                        I have stripper, acetone, xylene, MEK, GooGone, etc. but it was snowing yesterday and I didn't want to fill my place with flammable and unhealthy fumes.

                        Ah well. Maybe the trick only works on glass.

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                          JamesM
                          last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 13:42

                          I used peanut butter to remove adhesive from my cast bed a few weeks ago and it did work for me.

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                            Dr_Ju_Ju
                            last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 13:42

                            D-Limonene, Iso-Propyl-Alcohol (IPA), or Evo-Stik Adhesive cleaner, take your pick....

                            Leave any of these to soak into the adhesive, the gently scrape with a plastic scraper

                            Julian,

                            Old goat, learning new thingsโ€ฆ.

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                              A Former User @gtj0
                              last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 13:47

                              @gtj0 said in 486MP Adhesive Removal:

                              I've been pranked

                              @bearer said in 486MP Adhesive Removal:

                              I had to double check the date ..

                              Thanks for sharing; I'll be sitting here in isolation grinning all evening. ๐Ÿ˜

                              Back on topic; Isopropanol didn't do much for me, had to break out the acetone to make any timely progress.

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                                Dougal1957
                                last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 13:56

                                This is a worthwhile read how to remove 3M468 and re-attach a silicon heater

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                                  gtj0
                                  last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 14:06

                                  @Dr_Ju_Ju said in 486MP Adhesive Removal:

                                  D-Limonene, Iso-Propyl-Alcohol (IPA), or Evo-Stik Adhesive cleaner, take your pick....

                                  Leave any of these to soak into the adhesive, the gently scrape with a plastic scraper

                                  The IPA didn't do anything for me either but I'm going to give D-Limonene/Orange Oil a try. As I said, I've got plenty of chemicals that will do the job but I wanted a healthier/safer alternative.

                                  @Dougal1957 said in 486MP Adhesive Removal:

                                  This is a worthwhile read how to remove 3M468 and re-attach a silicon heater

                                  That a good article for removing the heater because the fishing line slips between the heater pad and the bed. I'll have to remember it. With just adhesive though, it doesn't work very well.

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                                    mrehorstdmd @Dougal1957
                                    last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 14:08

                                    @Dougal1957 I wouldn't recommend reattaching a silicone heater using 468MP. Use high temperature silicone instead. It won't let go of the heater or the plate. This is what happens when 468MP lets go:

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                                    You can buy a tube of high temperature silicone at any auto parts store for about $5. It's worth it not to have to clean 468MP off the plate again.

                                    The 468MP will let go of PEI after a year or two of use, too, but I wouldn't try to use silicone to glue it down because you'll never get the PEI surface to be flat.

                                    https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                      gtj0 @mrehorstdmd
                                      last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 14:10

                                      @mrehorstdmd The Keenovo article @Dougal1957 linked does say to use high-temp RTV to re-attach.

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                                        Dr_Ju_Ju
                                        last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 14:16

                                        I've just gone away from stick down PEI sheets, as they are a pain in the butt when trying to fix it to a 320x320 mm cast Aluminium sheet....

                                        Instead I've gone for a "Two Trees" 310x310 mm magnetic removable spring steel, pei sheet... much much easier to work with, & when hot PETg sticks well, just have see how long it holds for.

                                        Julian,

                                        Old goat, learning new thingsโ€ฆ.

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                                          Dougal1957 @mrehorstdmd
                                          last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 15:38

                                          @mrehorstdmd Mark yes I am aware of that and in fact I do need to order a new silicone heater for a build and it will be requested without 3M Adhesive

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