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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @Touchthebitum
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      @Touchthebitum said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

      On every drivers and without plugged motors ?

      driver 5 and 6 are okay arent they? and yes, the error will persist after unplugging the motor if you got the "correct" wrong combination.

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      • Touchthebitumundefined
        Touchthebitum @A Former User
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        @bearer said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

        @Touchthebitum said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

        On every drivers and without plugged motors ?

        driver 5 and 6 are okay arent they? and yes, the error will persist after unplugging the motor if you got the "correct" wrong combination.

        I didn't test the 5 and 6 drivers yet. I reflashed and erase everything to test again but always the same message.
        With my Duet2 wifi, it worked before

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
          last edited by A Former User

          I think we can leave it at drivers 0-3 are damaged, and Duet people will determine the cause and potential remedy.

          (edit: 👇 shop will tell you to get Duet people to determine the cause, on this fourm)

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          • Touchthebitumundefined
            Touchthebitum @A Former User
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            @bearer said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

            I think we can leave it at drivers 0-3 are damaged, and Duet people will determine the cause and potential remedy.

            Ok I contacted the shop and see what we can do .
            Thanks for your help

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @Touchthebitum
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              @Touchthebitum said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

              I don't know whhat to do because I tried to swapped wires many times.

              Unfortunately, swapping stepper motor wires over so that they are no longer wired with one phase to each end of the connector is a recipe for blowing drivers. This is because the driver cannot control the output current when they are mis-wired in this way. Sometimes they survive, sometimes they don't - it depends on the VIN voltage and the type of motor.

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              • Touchthebitumundefined
                Touchthebitum @dc42
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                @dc42 ok I understand but the problem was present at the first plug and I used the same working wiring than my working Duet2. And the message was telling that the driver 1 was short - ground and I had never plugged anything on the socket.
                I repeat, I swapped the wires because it didn't work with the same wiring as my Duet2.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Touchthebitum
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                  @Touchthebitum said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

                  I forgot to mention that the error message is present without the motors plugged ...
                  It is the Duet3 V1.01

                  Here is a photo of the plug. I tested the phase before plugging it.

                  Tape is provisory.

                  driver 0.jpg

                  What role does the tape play there? Is it possible the crimp was bad from the start and making a bad connection?

                  Were you getting the error before plugging anything in or only after?

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                  • Touchthebitumundefined
                    Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
                    last edited by Touchthebitum

                    @Phaedrux Tape is only a protection to avoid shorts contact. Contacts were good since I made continuity tests and resistance tests and I always had signal.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      Were there any other error messages along with the short to ground errors?

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                      • Touchthebitumundefined
                        Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
                        last edited by Touchthebitum

                        @Phaedrux No, M122 had not error messages. Only those ground-short messages

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          When are where was the Duet 3 purchased?

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                            Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              Please send M122 and post the resulting output here.

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                              • Touchthebitumundefined
                                Touchthebitum @dc42
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                                @dc42

                                m122
                                === Diagnostics ===
                                RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
                                Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6J9F4-3S46N-TU2QD
                                Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (10 max)
                                === RTOS ===
                                Static ram: 154604
                                Dynamic ram: 162592 of which 44 recycled
                                Exception stack ram used: 224
                                Never used ram: 75752
                                Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1968) HEAT(blocked,1200) CanReceiv(suspended,3820) CanSender(suspended,1488) CanClock(blocked,1436) TMC(blocked,204) MAIN(running,4952) IDLE(ready,76)
                                Owned mutexes:
                                === Platform ===
                                Last reset 00:00:44 ago, cause: power up
                                Last software reset at 2020-07-27 15:14, reason: User, spinning module LinuxInterface, available RAM 75704 bytes (slot 0)
                                Software reset code 0x0010 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0443c000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                                Error status: 0
                                MCU temperature: min 19.4, current 27.7, max 27.8
                                Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
                                Driver 0: standstill, reads 22474, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                Driver 1: standstill, reads 22474, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                Driver 2: standstill, reads 22475, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                Driver 3: standstill, reads 22475, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                Driver 4: standstill, reads 22478, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                Driver 5: standstill, reads 22479, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                Date/time: 2020-07-27 15:15:01
                                Slowest loop: 3.63ms; fastest: 0.14ms
                                === Storage ===
                                Free file entries: 10
                                SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
                                SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                === Move ===
                                Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 375, MinFreeDm: 375, MaxWait: 0ms
                                Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                === MainDDARing ===
                                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                === AuxDDARing ===
                                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                === Heat ===
                                Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                                === GCodes ===
                                Segments left: 0
                                Movement lock held by null
                                HTTP* is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0
                                Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                File is idle in state(s) 0
                                USB is idle in state(s) 0
                                Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
                                Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                                SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                                Daemon* is idle in state(s) 0
                                Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                                Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                Code queue is empty.
                                === Network ===
                                Slowest loop: 1.02ms; fastest: 0.01ms
                                Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                                HTTP sessions: 0 of 8

                                • Ethernet -
                                  State: disabled
                                  Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                                  Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                  === CAN ===
                                  Messages sent 72, longest wait 0ms for type 0
                                  === Linux interface ===
                                  State: 0, failed transfers: 0
                                  Last transfer: 18ms ago
                                  RX/TX seq numbers: 583/584
                                  SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                                  Number of disconnects: 0
                                  Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
                                  === Duet Control Server ===
                                  Duet Control Server v3.1.1
                                  Code buffer space: 4096
                                  Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
                                  Full transfers per second: 30.27

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  Thanks. Please try commanding the motors to move (without any motors connected) and repeat that. I am looking for the driver status to change.

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                                  • Touchthebitumundefined
                                    Touchthebitum @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42

                                    Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s) 0 1
                                    27/07/2020 à 21:40:14 m122
                                    === Diagnostics ===
                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
                                    Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6J9F4-3S46N-TU2QD
                                    Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (10 max)
                                    === RTOS ===
                                    Static ram: 154604
                                    Dynamic ram: 162592 of which 44 recycled
                                    Exception stack ram used: 280
                                    Never used ram: 75696
                                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1968) HEAT(blocked,1200) CanReceiv(suspended,3820) CanSender(suspended,1488) CanClock(blocked,1452) TMC(blocked,68) MAIN(running,4952) IDLE(ready,76)
                                    Owned mutexes:
                                    === Platform ===
                                    Last reset 00:00:47 ago, cause: power up
                                    Last software reset at 2020-07-27 15:14, reason: User, spinning module LinuxInterface, available RAM 75704 bytes (slot 0)
                                    Software reset code 0x0010 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0443c000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                                    Error status: 0
                                    MCU temperature: min 20.8, current 29.0, max 29.1
                                    Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.1, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                    12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0
                                    Driver 0: short-to-ground standstill, reads 39652, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                    Driver 1: short-to-ground standstill, reads 39652, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/63
                                    Driver 2: standstill, reads 39656, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                    Driver 3: standstill, reads 39656, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                    Driver 4: standstill, reads 39660, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                    Driver 5: standstill, reads 39660, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                                    Date/time: 2020-07-27 20:36:50
                                    Slowest loop: 3.82ms; fastest: 0.14ms
                                    === Storage ===
                                    Free file entries: 10
                                    SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
                                    SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                    === Move ===
                                    Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 375, MinFreeDm: 373, MaxWait: 34018ms
                                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                    === MainDDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 1, completed moves: 1, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                    === AuxDDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                    === Heat ===
                                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                                    === GCodes ===
                                    Segments left: 0
                                    Movement lock held by null
                                    HTTP* is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0
                                    Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                    File is idle in state(s) 0
                                    USB is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                    LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                                    SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Daemon* is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Code queue is empty.
                                    === Network ===
                                    Slowest loop: 0.88ms; fastest: 0.01ms
                                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                                    HTTP sessions: 0 of 8

                                    • Ethernet -
                                      State: disabled
                                      Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                                      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                      === CAN ===
                                      Messages sent 100, longest wait 0ms for type 0
                                      === Linux interface ===
                                      State: 0, failed transfers: 0
                                      Last transfer: 17ms ago
                                      RX/TX seq numbers: 808/809
                                      SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                                      Number of disconnects: 0
                                      Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
                                      === Duet Control Server ===
                                      Duet Control Server v3.1.1
                                      Code buffer space: 4096
                                      Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
                                      Full transfers per second: 3.50

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                                    • percybundefined
                                      percyb
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                                      I have a similar issue, getting "Warning: motor phase A may be disconnected reported by driver(s)" on all drive ports with what were working stepper motors. Only possible mistake i made is connect one stepper motor to 3 pins instead of 4 ie offset one pin. Would this cause all drivers to die?

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                                      • Touchthebitumundefined
                                        Touchthebitum @percyb
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                                        @percyb said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

                                        I have a similar issue, getting "Warning: motor phase A may be disconnected reported by driver(s)" on all drive ports with what were working stepper motors. Only possible mistake i made is connect one stepper motor to 3 pins instead of 4 ie offset one pin. Would this cause all drivers to die?

                                        Impossible because I tested all phases before plugging motor and I checked if these big crimps went on the right place when connectind them on the Duet,

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                                          A Former User @percyb
                                          last edited by A Former User

                                          @percyb said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

                                          I have a similar issue, getting "Warning: motor phase A may be disconnected reported by driver(s)"

                                          ref https://forum.duet3d.com/post/100507 and you should probably start your own topic if the error persist after disconnecting your motors (when powered down ofc)

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                                          • Touchthebitumundefined
                                            Touchthebitum @A Former User
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                                            @bearer said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

                                            @percyb said in Short to ground on drivers 0123:

                                            I have a similar issue, getting "Warning: motor phase A may be disconnected reported by driver(s)"

                                            ref https://forum.duet3d.com/post/100507 and you should probably start your own topic if the error persist after disconnecting your motors (when powered down ofc)

                                            I think we should think about a warranty process. I don't know what to add to the discussion. I repeat, it is not the first printer I build and I'm aware of risks. Before this Duet3 I used a Duet2 and was perfect (no errors messages) with the same motors. This board never worked and I directly plugged the SAME motors that I plugged to my Duet2. So there is a problem.
                                            My shop told me to see with this forum, what I did.
                                            Now, I choosed a Genuine board because I believe in the right intelectual properties and know-how.
                                            Please, give me a clear answer and we can go on.
                                            Thanks

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