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    • duttiundefined
      dutti @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @Phaedrux
      OK... I´ll connect the new motor tomorrow.

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      • duttiundefined
        dutti @Veti
        last edited by

        @Veti
        resistance is fine.

        Thanks

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          have you tried a different cable?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            When using a motor with a plug on the body and a separate cable, you MUST confirm the phases with a multimeter or by other means, because the pinout of the connector is not standardised. Although if the cable was supplied by E3D as part of the Hemera kit, it ought to match.

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            • mitchundefined
              mitch
              last edited by mitch

              I found the hemera wiring to be different from my stock motor. I had to swap pins 3&4 when using the hemera.

              here is my wiring table i used with the duet:

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              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IE73tfQX7RgpArzxZJwyxEA-VIYsMFzE/view?usp=sharing

              https://www.randoprojects.com/2020/07/26/ender-5-w-hemera-and-duet-2/

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              • duttiundefined
                dutti
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                yes... 6 different cables which are working perfect since 2 months. Also with shaking the cables it´s working with normal nema 17 but not with the hemera. Try to replace the hemera today!
                thanks

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                • duttiundefined
                  dutti @mitch
                  last edited by

                  @mitch
                  ah ok!!!! I´ll try it directly!
                  thanks

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                  • duttiundefined
                    dutti @mitch
                    last edited by

                    @mitch
                    switching 3+4 pin was not helpful..

                    Also interesting is, that the sound doen´t stop anymore. I must turn off the machine. otherwise the sound of hemera doesn´t stop

                    Thanks

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                    • duttiundefined
                      dutti @dc42
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                      @dc42
                      I´m workig with this plugs since months and it works with the E3D slimlime motor. So I think the plug is ok...

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @dutti
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                        @barbarossa-cologne have you tested the phases yet?! Blindly changing the pins isn’t going to work, and may damage the Duet and/or the motor. Disconnect the motor cable from the Duet and check!

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

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                        • duttiundefined
                          dutti @droftarts
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                          @droftarts
                          Couldn´t test it because I don´t have a multimeter.
                          I don´t understand that I can´t read how to wire the motor exactly. Only @mitch had the information about switching the 3+4 pin...
                          E3D needs the same good support like Duet does it...

                          And at this moment, I don´t know if the motor is already not working anymore.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @dutti
                            last edited by

                            @barbarossa-cologne said in Hemera goes wild! heat and no moving...:

                            Couldn´t test it because I don´t have a multimeter.

                            how did you measure the resistance that you said you did?

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                            • duttiundefined
                              dutti @Veti
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                              @Veti
                              A friend came to my house with a multimeter.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Document/GdYIUZMlaEoWbQhU/Hemera-Datasheet-(Edition-2).pdf

                                page 6 has the motor wiring.

                                but if your say that each phase had the correct resistance then the motor is fine and not broken.

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                                • duttiundefined
                                  dutti @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti
                                  Ok your rigth. I changed the wiring like @mitch and page 6 says, but it´s still not working.
                                  😕

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti
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                                    are the colours of the wire matching on the duet side?

                                    https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/TF1FBCbopEsxvYAv.huge

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      If you don't have a multimeter you can use this method to match the phases:

                                      With the motor wires not connected to anything, spin the spindle between your fingers. Short two of the wires together, then spin the spindle again. If it is much harder to spin than before, those two wires belong to the same phase. Otherwise, try again with a different pair of wires shorted together.

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                                      • duttiundefined
                                        dutti @Veti
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                                        @Veti yes

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                                        • duttiundefined
                                          dutti @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti yes

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                                          • duttiundefined
                                            dutti
                                            last edited by

                                            Problem solved. Motor wasn´t working after wrong wiring.
                                            Thanks to all!!

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