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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @devleon
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      @devleon yes the wiki does mention that maps may form. It's like the slicers have been compensating for bulging line ends already. Try an additional 3-5%.

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      • devleonundefined
        devleon @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux

        I changed the value from 25%, to 30% and to 40% with no difference.

        Thinking more about it, I don't think it's Infill/Perimeter Overlap. Shouldn't it be the extrusion width for solid infill? After all the lines are now thinner on the first layer than before. This is what my config looks like in PrusaSlicer:
        a0626ffd-280a-4d06-b531-56d0d4d1fb70-image.png

        Printing the same G-Code with PA disabled, and I get a beautiful first and second layer with no gaps. As soon as PA is enabled, I get gaps in the first and second layer between the individual lines of filament.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          I don't let slic3r pick the extrusion width normally. All widths would either be same as nozzle size or a bit more. 200% for first layer is an old school hack for bed adhesion. Try with first layer at nozzle size and 0.2 layer height.

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          • DanS79undefined
            DanS79 @SnakeSP
            last edited by DanS79

            @SnakeSP I feel your pain, as Ideamaker is the same way. It says i can put the seam anywhere, but it always puts it at a corner. I'm going to try this out with a large diameter cylinder instead of a square.

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            • sunnywilson09undefined
              sunnywilson09 @OBELIKS
              last edited by

              I know, but this is a bit silly.
              I am using a cloned Titan extruder. A bad clone.

              https://get-mobdro.com // https://get-tubemate.in - do share your views?

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              • stripsundefined
                strips
                last edited by strips

                Just want to share a few changes I made in the python script.

                • Prints a box instead of two walls
                • Tidied up the skirt generation as id did some strange moves
                • has a text block for starting gcode and end gcode

                advance_cal_box.py.txt

                Ender 5 Plus, E3D Bigbox Dual

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                • MartinNYHCundefined
                  MartinNYHC
                  last edited by MartinNYHC

                  May I ask for help interpreting the result? Looks like the higher PA is the better the result? I'm using a direct drive. Thanks.

                  IMG_0055-1.png

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @MartinNYHC
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                      @MartinNYHC Yes it would appear that way buy you should also test with an actual print to check for any unintended behaviours of running with a high pressure advance value.

                      How long is your bowden tube? Have you tried the cube wall method shown here? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance#Section_Simplest_Method_Possible

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                      • MartinNYHCundefined
                        MartinNYHC
                        last edited by MartinNYHC

                        @Phaedrux There's only a short PTFE tube between extruder and hotend. I think it's about 20mm. Will do some additional tests today.

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                        • avion23undefined
                          avion23
                          last edited by avion23

                          I've updated the *.py file with

                          • preamble
                          • postamble
                          • klipper compatibility
                          • Marlin compatibility

                          advance_cal.py

                          These are my results:
                          Delta Fyling extruder PA 0 - 0.5 over 40mm PLA
                          IMG_20210713_134752.jpg
                          Delta Fyling extruder PA 0 - 0.5 over 40mm PLA carbon fiber
                          IMG_20210713_134802.jpg

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                          • duosvidundefined
                            duosvid
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                            I have tuned PA according to the method in the wiki, not with the script, but by printing a 100mm cube and adjusting on the fly. I have settled on 0.7, with a bowden tube of around 480mm length.

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                            • duosvidundefined
                              duosvid @duosvid
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                              @duosvid said in Pressure Advance Calibration:

                              I have tuned PA according to the method in the wiki, not with the script, but by printing a 100mm cube and adjusting on the fly. I have settled on 0.7, with a bowden tube of around 480mm length.

                              overall surface and z-seam look better, I'm now getting gaps in the infill - not in the parameters though . .

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @duosvid
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                                @duosvid said in Pressure Advance Calibration:

                                @duosvid said in Pressure Advance Calibration:

                                I have tuned PA according to the method in the wiki, not with the script, but by printing a 100mm cube and adjusting on the fly. I have settled on 0.7, with a bowden tube of around 480mm length.

                                overall surface and z-seam look better, I'm now getting gaps in the infill - not in the parameters though . .

                                It's not uncommon to need to increase perimeter overlap slightly after tuning pressure advance.

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                                • tmitch205undefined
                                  tmitch205 @dc42
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                                  @dc42 said in Pressure Advance Calibration:

                                  Yes that's a valid approach. It's on our list to add a generator of pressure advance tests scripts to reprapfirmware.org, but it hasn't happened yet.

                                  I know this is a super old thread but wanted to check anyway. Has the generator been created and added? If so, could you provide the link, please?

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk @tmitch205
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                                    @tmitch205 my version of the klipper one generated RRF compatible pressure advance tests https://jaysuk.github.io/Voron/PA/pressure_advance.html

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • symundefined
                                      sym
                                      last edited by

                                      Couldn't get this working, turns out Powershell encodes terminal output as UTF16LE. It will crash the Duet when you try to start it. Convert to UTF8 and smooth sailing.

                                      Thanks!

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