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    Veti
    last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 18:41

    ok that looks good.

    now do the test again, grab the hotend carriage and turn on clockwise and anticlockwise between probes. dont force it but do it gently.

    after that do it again trying to rotate it forwards and backwards.

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      Leblond
      last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 18:53

      in practice I take the trolley and manually try to move it and then I do the tests again, did I understand correctly?

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        Veti @Leblond
        last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 18:55

        @Leblond
        yes. we are looking for backlash in the assembly. movement could cause the assembly to rotate and cause the result you are seeing.

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          Leblond
          last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 18:58

          25/10/2020, 19:57:24 G32 bed probe heights: 0.192 0.195 0.190 0.192 0.192 0.192 0.190 0.190 0.190 0.190, mean 0.191, deviation from mean 0.002
          25/10/2020, 19:56:50 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.185 0.180 0.185 0.185 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.185 0.183, mean 0.183, deviation from mean 0.002
          25/10/2020, 19:56:17 G32 bed probe heights: 0.168 0.168 0.168 0.173 0.170 0.165 0.170 0.170 0.170 0.170, mean 0.169, deviation from mean 0.002
          25/10/2020, 19:55:43 M98 P"0:/macros/Calibrazione a punto singolo/Calibrazione x 10"
          G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.185 0.183 0.185 0.185 0.185 0.183 0.185 0.185 0.183, mean 0.184, deviation from mean 0.001

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            Veti
            last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:08

            M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

            there are default values from the configurator.

            a quick google shows the motors seem to be 1,68 A motors

            so you are running way to little current. try 1300

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              Leblond
              last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:49

              The motors are Quimat Nema 17 Stepper Motor 1.7 A 0.59 Nm 84 oz.in 47mm

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                Veti @Leblond
                last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:51

                @Leblond said in Triangular wave and print area:

                1.7 A

                so running them at 75% rounding to nearest 100 is 1300.

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                  Leblond
                  last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:54

                  ok I took them to 1.3 and I'm doing the test again later

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                    Leblond
                    last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:56

                    25/10/2020, 20:56:11 G32 bed probe heights: 0.198 0.195 0.195 0.198 0.195 0.200 0.195 0.200 0.192 0.195, mean 0.196, deviation from mean 0.002
                    25/10/2020, 20:55:37 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.180 0.180 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.180 0.180 0.183, mean 0.181, deviation from mean 0.001
                    25/10/2020, 20:55:04 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.178 0.173 0.170 0.178 0.173 0.173 0.178 0.178 0.173, mean 0.175, deviation from mean 0.004
                    25/10/2020, 20:54:31 M98 P"0:/macros/Calibrazione a punto singolo/Calibrazione x 10"
                    G32 bed probe heights: 0.195 0.192 0.192 0.195 0.192 0.195 0.195 0.195 0.188 0.195, mean 0.194, deviation from mean 0.002

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                      Leblond
                      last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:57

                      I'm retrying cold-meshing the plate to see if we've made any improvements

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                        Leblond
                        last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 20:06

                        20x20 temperatura ambiente_secondo tentativo.jpg

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                          Leblond
                          last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 20:08

                          no improvement

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                            Veti
                            last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 05:07

                            it seems to be very consistent.

                            can you turn the glass 90 degrees?

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                              OwenD
                              last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 07:49

                              Is the X carriage on wheels?
                              I'm not familiar with the printer and can't tell from the photos I've seen,
                              Almost looks like an eccentric wheel causing the nozzle to rise & fall with each rotation

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                                Leblond
                                last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 12:13

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                                  Leblond
                                  last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 12:14

                                  Yes, the trolley is on rails and has eccentrics

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                                    peter247 @Leblond
                                    last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 12:44

                                    @Leblond

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                                    I've had the same problem once , it was the x axis wheels and stopped the ripple with linear rails , but I guess getting better would have fixed it too.

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                                      Leblond @Veti
                                      last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 20:56

                                      @Veti yes I have already tried to rotate it 90 degrees, but no improvement

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                                        Leblond @peter247
                                        last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 20:58

                                        @peter247 in practice they had?

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Leblond
                                          last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 20:58

                                          @Leblond said in Triangular wave and print area:

                                          Yes, the trolley is on rails and has eccentrics

                                          I don't think he's talking about eccentric nuts to adjust wheel tension, I think he means the wheel itself may be out of round.

                                          Is the spacing between the peaks equivalent to a full rotation of the wheel?

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