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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
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      @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

      I run a business and I need dependable homing on a machine that will run 20+ hours a day.

      Then you can't beat the reliability of a simple switch.

      I don't know how marlin sets the sensitivity of stall detection for sensorless homing since it's literally a function of the driver to detect the back emf and stall.

      There are examples of working sensorless homing on a corexy. The E3D tool changer uses it for instance. Though corexy presents a challenge for it because of the nature of the dual drive motor setup and the compliance in the belt. The system needs to be rigid to produce a short sharp shock. A cartesian printer with a single motor per axis doesn't have the same issue, so it's a lot easier to tune.

      Why it's not working for you, I cannot say. I can only speculate based on what info you've provided. I've offered how I would approach figuring it out.

      Perhaps the motors you're using are different than the ones we thought you had?

      @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

      You can't begin to make things any better if nobody will admit they have a problem.

      This is open source hardware and software, if there's a problem, we're all here to solve it and improve it. However, I don't think you've demonstrated there's a problem other than with your setup.

      The 2209 and the 2660 are different drivers. Maybe the difference in sensitivity is very different. It's a bit of a moot point since the duet has the drivers it has. Others have gotten it to work without issue, and others have had problems, and yes, a simple switch is usually recommended, because it's cheap, simple, and works reliably.

      However, in your case it's detecting a stall immediately, which is the opposite of what you'd normally see as a problem, which is it doesn't detect a stall at all and just slams into the hardstop.

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      • Kwad3dundefined
        Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux Please don't be offended. I appreciate your patience and assistance on the issue. As I suggested I recommend the Duet team get ahold of a 32 bit marlin based board so you can see where the competition is at with the feature. A company that feels there safe on top can be caught off guard by a competitor who can identify where the need to improve on their product. Now if marlin was perfect we would never be having this conversation. So all Im saying is there is room for improvement in the tuning process.

        And yes my LDO motors do Look a little funny compared to the pics of genuine LDO motors pictured so that could be exactly what makes me feel the tuning process is too complicated if they are a cheap clone that does not have the correct specs.   
        
          I will reply again when I get to adjusting the leveling points for the BL touch.    Hopefully I will have better luck on my own this time around as I did set it up before when I originally had the board on my CR-10 but some of the points were a little off.    
        
         Again I appreciate your assistance.   I just can't spend $1000 of my personal time trying to get senseless homing to work when I have other stuff to get done.
        
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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          No offence taken at all. Good luck with the rest of your commissioning and feel free to come back with any questions.

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          • Kwad3dundefined
            Kwad3d @Phaedrux
            last edited by Kwad3d

            @Phaedrux Im almost there now. X and Y are homing great now and Im on the BLtouch set up now. when homing Z im getting this error now "Failed to enable endstops".

            Here is my endstop and z probe setup
            ; Endstops
            M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
            M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop

            ; Z-Probe
            M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
            M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
            G31 P500 X-26 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X36:290 Y46:290 S48 ; define mesh grid

            I have tested the probe and it will deploy, retract, and reset as well.

            I tried adding M574 Z1 S2 to the endstop lines but the probe failed to deploy

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
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              most likely are missing the G30 in your homing files and are trying to hit the none existing endstop

              post your homing files

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk
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                You need to change your homez and homeall files to something like

                G91 
                G1 H2 Z5
                G90
                G1 X150 Y150
                G30
                

                A probe doesn't use the typical G1 H1 moves to home.
                That code above basically lifts the bed away from the nozzle, moves to a position (usually the centre of the bed so adjust taking into account your probe offset) and then it proves the bed at that point to set Z to whatever your probe offset is.

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • Kwad3dundefined
                  Kwad3d @jay_s_uk
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                  @jay_s_uk Ok that seemed to get me going.

                  Now I just have to figure out how to adjust where the mesh starts for each axis. the XY max probe points are perfect at 10mm inside the max points of the bed. However the X is starting at 40mm (62 at the nozzle) and the Y is starting at 55mm.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
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                    @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                    However the X is starting at 40mm (62 at the nozzle) and the Y is starting at 55mm.

                    M557 X36:290 Y46:290 S48 ; define mesh grid

                    If it's starting too far inside the limit, increase/decrease the limits in M557

                    Try X10:290 Y10:290

                    To make testing faster, change S48 to P2:2, this would result in a 2x2 grid instead of a full detailed grid. Once you're happy with the extends you can switch back to the spacing method, or increase the number of points.

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M557_Set_Z_probe_point_or_define_probing_grid

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                    • Kwad3dundefined
                      Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux Thanks. Yea I'm slowly getting it where I want by making those adjustments. Despite my negative opinion on senseless homing the BL touch setup it way simpler and easier than marlin which continuously tried to probe off the bed regardless of adjustments made.

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                      • Kwad3dundefined
                        Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux Seems I got the bed mesh dialed in pretty good. I used previous Hight maps to adjust the bed mounting points and this is my result. Sure its not %100 perfect but I will take it. Hopefully that is the last of the assistance I need. Thanks again for your patience and professionalism fd3ac3e7-943b-43c2-a46c-8292f02b86f9-image.png

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                        • Kwad3dundefined
                          Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                          @Phaedrux So I think Im done setting up the machine. I got a message when sending M500 so save my pid tune saying "Warning: M500: No M501 command was executed in config.g"

                          Do I just add M501 after the last line in config.g or am I good to turn it off now?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
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                            @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                            Do I just add M501 after the last line in config.g

                            Yeah you need to add M501 at the end of config.g to load the saved values at boot from config-override.g.

                            The saved values are still there in config-override.g whether you turn it off or not.

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                            • Kwad3dundefined
                              Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux Hi again. So I ran into a issue with my bed leveling. When I got the probe grid mapped out for my printer I used the hight map to manually level the bed. I did such a good job that I never noticed that the printer was not compensating for irregularities. I recently changed the build surface and now my mesh is no longer as flat as I posted in the pic. Now Im noticing that the printer is not adjusting the z axis for a good first layer. What to I need to do to turn on leveling based off the generated hight map?

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                The heightmap is not loaded at startup automatically. You need to either use G29 to create a fresh map, or use G29 S1 to load the previously created heightmap. That would usually happen in your slicer start gcode after the axis have been homed (and Z has been homed with the probe).

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                                • Kwad3dundefined
                                  Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux Yea I have G29 in my start G code but the Z axis makes no adjustments to follow the mesh. Here is my G code.

                                  G28 ; home all axes
                                  G29 S1
                                  G1 Z5 F3000 ; lift
                                  G1 X10 Y10 F1500 ; move to prime
                                  G1 Z0.2 F3000 ; get ready to prime
                                  G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
                                  G1 X120 E15 F600 ; prime nozzle
                                  G1 X140 F5000 ; quick wipe-

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    How are you determining that it's not compensating?

                                    If you send M122 after the print is started, does it show "compensation: mesh"?

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                                    • Kwad3dundefined
                                      Kwad3d
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                                      I marked my Z motor's 20T gear with a black line. There is no movement other than adjusting for a new layer. I entered M122 in the console and this is what came back

                                      M122
                                      === Diagnostics ===
                                      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.1.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                                      Board ID: 08DJM-9178L-L4MSJ-6JTD8-3S86L-K826N
                                      Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (21 max)
                                      === RTOS ===
                                      Static ram: 27980
                                      Dynamic ram: 93912 of which 52 recycled
                                      Exception stack ram used: 648
                                      Never used ram: 8480
                                      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,268) HEAT(blocked,1224) MAIN(running,1732) IDLE(ready,80)
                                      Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
                                      === Platform ===
                                      Last reset 105:28:54 ago, cause: software
                                      Last software reset at 2020-12-31 07:13, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 8528 bytes (slot 3)
                                      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                                      Error status: 0
                                      MCU temperature: min 40.1, current 40.5, max 40.7
                                      Supply voltage: min 23.8, current 23.9, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                      Driver 0: ok, SG min/max 0/126
                                      Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                      Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                      Driver 3: ok, SG min/max not available
                                      Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                      Date/time: 2021-01-04 16:43:33
                                      Cache data hit count 4294967295
                                      Slowest loop: 88.77ms; fastest: 0.14ms
                                      I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                      === Storage ===
                                      Free file entries: 9
                                      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                      SD card longest read time 1.3ms, write time 41.5ms, max retries 0
                                      === Move ===
                                      Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 166, MinFreeDm: 154, MaxWait: 0ms
                                      Bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                                      === MainDDARing ===
                                      Scheduled moves: 2501, completed moves: 2493, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: 3
                                      === AuxDDARing ===
                                      Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                      === Heat ===
                                      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                                      Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
                                      Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.5
                                      === GCodes ===
                                      Segments left: 1
                                      Movement lock held by null
                                      HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                      File is doing "G1 X120.948 Y165.948 E2.6605" in state(s) 0
                                      USB is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                      Code queue is empty.
                                      === Network ===
                                      Slowest loop: 201.12ms; fastest: 0.09ms
                                      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                                      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                                      • WiFi -
                                        Network state is active
                                        WiFi module is connected to access point
                                        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
                                        WiFi firmware version 1.23
                                        WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:31:a5:92
                                        WiFi Vcc 3.40, reset reason Unknown
                                        WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 22840
                                        WiFi IP address 192.168.1.10
                                        WiFi signal strength -54dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                                        Socket states: 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0
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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @Kwad3d
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                                        @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                                        I marked my Z motor's 20T gear with a black line. There is no movement other than adjusting for a new layer. I entered M122 in the console and this is what came back

                                        The movement can be very hard to see if you are looking at the gear.

                                        Affix a pointer of some sort to magnify the apparent movement. I use a 50mm nail held to the lead screw with a small magnet.

                                        Once I did that I could see the mesh adjustments.

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • Kwad3dundefined
                                          Kwad3d @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt Its not moving. I have 17 printers in the shop and I can visually see the z axis move when compensating for irregularities in the bed. Also you should be able to feel minor adjustments if you lightly tough the pully on the Z motor as well. I mean I can place a 3mm spacer under the front of the bed where the z is homed to exaggerate a out of level platform to prove its not working but its simply a waste of my time as I can tell its not working. I'm not speculating...

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            M122 indicates it's active. What does the heightmap image look like? Did you re-create the mesh with G29 after changing the bed surface? Do you have any taper off set with M376?

                                            This thread is very long at this point and this is a completely unrelated issue. It might be a good idea to start a new thread with all your config files, etc

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