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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti @natty15d
      last edited by

      @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

      B4725 C7.06e-8

      how sure are you that this is correct for your thermistor? is it a genuine e3d hotend?

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      • natty15dundefined
        natty15d @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @Phaedrux Its the same hardware i've been using for the last 6 months with no issues using the same settings

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        • natty15dundefined
          natty15d @fcwilt
          last edited by

          @fcwilt just changed the settings to
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

          still has the same issue 😞

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          • natty15dundefined
            natty15d @Veti
            last edited by

            @Veti It's not a genuine E3d hotend, its a Trianglelabs clone with a 104GT-2 Thermistor Cartridge and Heater Cartridge 12V 40W 6mmx20mm

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            • natty15dundefined
              natty15d
              last edited by natty15d

              The extruder stepper motor is a Nema 17 Bipolar Stepper 1.8deg 0.8A 120mN.m 42x42x22mm Nema17 Titan Pancake

              And the new settings are

              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Wed Nov 04 2020 17:51:25 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)

              ; General preferences
              G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"Eniac40" ; set printer name
              M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

              ; Network

              ; Drives
              M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
              M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
              M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
              M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X80.24 Y80.24 Z398.00 E412.00 ; set steps per mm
              M566 X480.00 Y480.00 Z18.00 E480.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z720.00 E1800.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z100.00 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X1700 Y1700 Z1700 E680 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
              M208 X390 Y425 Z405 S0 ; set axis maxima

              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin !xstop
              M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin !ystop
              M574 Z1 S1 P"!zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin !zstop

              ; Z-Probe
              M558 P0 H2 F120 T15000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
              M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 A84.5 C94.6 D0.7 S1.00 V11.9 B0 ; PID heated bed
              M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C
              M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 A298.1 C175.7 D3.8 S1.00 V11.8 B0 ; PID hotend heater

              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
              M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
              M106 P2 S1 H1 T180 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

              ; Custom settings are not defined

              ; Miscellaneous
              M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
              T0 ; select first tool

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @natty15d
                last edited by

                @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                @fcwilt just changed the settings to
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

                still has the same issue 😞

                Hmm..

                Are you by chance using a different brand or kind of filament?

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  just to rule out slicer, can you do this test with a different slicer?

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Firmware version 3.1.1?

                    Have you PID tuned the hotend recently? Is your temp graph stable?

                    The gcode is basically identical other than the feed rate, but trying another slicer couldn't hurt for confirmation.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • natty15dundefined
                      natty15d @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt I'm using the filament I was using before installing the duet

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @natty15d
                        last edited by

                        @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                        @fcwilt I'm using the filament I was using before installing the duet

                        Hmm...

                        Have you verified that the steps/mm setting for the extruder is correct?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • natty15dundefined
                          natty15d @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux PID tuned last week and very stable temps.
                          I've been 3d printing for years but I've only ever used simplify3d, are there any other slicers you'd recommend

                          Recalibrated my wanhao i3 last week with the same slicer and didn't have any issues

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                          • natty15dundefined
                            natty15d @fcwilt
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt double checked that, 100mm is extruded

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                            • natty15dundefined
                              natty15d
                              last edited by

                              i also changed to "relative extrusion distances" in simplify3d for the Duet, never needed that for the wanhao i3

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @natty15d
                                last edited by

                                @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                                @fcwilt double checked that, 100mm is extruded

                                And again, hmm...

                                What filament are you using and what at what temp?

                                It has to be your hardware or configuration as I have five different Duet WiFi setups and they all work fine at the slow speeds I mentioned.

                                We just have to figure out what is different about your setup.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • natty15dundefined
                                  natty15d
                                  last edited by natty15d

                                  PLA printing at 215, its all the same hardware, temps & pla that i used prior to changing to Duet, so i know its tested and works.
                                  Like you say i also think its a setting ive not set properly thats throwing the slow speed printing out

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                                  • OwenDundefined
                                    OwenD @natty15d
                                    last edited by

                                    @natty15d
                                    Is your slicer using volumetric extrusion?
                                    Have you checked part fan speeds?

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @natty15d
                                      last edited by

                                      @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                                      PLA printing at 215, its all the same hardware, temps & pla that i used prior to changing to Duet, so i know its tested and works.
                                      Like you say i also think its a setting ive not set properly thats throwing the slow speed printing out

                                      I'm having to say "hmm..." a lot on this one.

                                      Have you watched the status of the print on the DWC (Duet Web Control) and verified the speeds are what they should be - taking into account the various settings of S3D?

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • natty15dundefined
                                        natty15d @OwenD
                                        last edited by

                                        @OwenD not sure on the volumetric slicing, will look into that, Fan speed is 100% after layer 1

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                                        • natty15dundefined
                                          natty15d @fcwilt
                                          last edited by

                                          @fcwilt No i havent, will try that tomorrow

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti @natty15d
                                            last edited by Veti

                                            @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                                            I've been 3d printing for years but I've only ever used simplify3d, are there any other slicers you'd recommend

                                            prusaslicers standard profile is quite good and easy to setup

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