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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      Firmware version 3.1.1?

      Have you PID tuned the hotend recently? Is your temp graph stable?

      The gcode is basically identical other than the feed rate, but trying another slicer couldn't hurt for confirmation.

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      • natty15dundefined
        natty15d @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt I'm using the filament I was using before installing the duet

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @natty15d
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          @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

          @fcwilt I'm using the filament I was using before installing the duet

          Hmm...

          Have you verified that the steps/mm setting for the extruder is correct?

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • natty15dundefined
            natty15d @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux PID tuned last week and very stable temps.
            I've been 3d printing for years but I've only ever used simplify3d, are there any other slicers you'd recommend

            Recalibrated my wanhao i3 last week with the same slicer and didn't have any issues

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            • natty15dundefined
              natty15d @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt double checked that, 100mm is extruded

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              • natty15dundefined
                natty15d
                last edited by

                i also changed to "relative extrusion distances" in simplify3d for the Duet, never needed that for the wanhao i3

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @natty15d
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                  @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                  @fcwilt double checked that, 100mm is extruded

                  And again, hmm...

                  What filament are you using and what at what temp?

                  It has to be your hardware or configuration as I have five different Duet WiFi setups and they all work fine at the slow speeds I mentioned.

                  We just have to figure out what is different about your setup.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • natty15dundefined
                    natty15d
                    last edited by natty15d

                    PLA printing at 215, its all the same hardware, temps & pla that i used prior to changing to Duet, so i know its tested and works.
                    Like you say i also think its a setting ive not set properly thats throwing the slow speed printing out

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                    • OwenDundefined
                      OwenD @natty15d
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                      @natty15d
                      Is your slicer using volumetric extrusion?
                      Have you checked part fan speeds?

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @natty15d
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                        @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                        PLA printing at 215, its all the same hardware, temps & pla that i used prior to changing to Duet, so i know its tested and works.
                        Like you say i also think its a setting ive not set properly thats throwing the slow speed printing out

                        I'm having to say "hmm..." a lot on this one.

                        Have you watched the status of the print on the DWC (Duet Web Control) and verified the speeds are what they should be - taking into account the various settings of S3D?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • natty15dundefined
                          natty15d @OwenD
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                          @OwenD not sure on the volumetric slicing, will look into that, Fan speed is 100% after layer 1

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                          • natty15dundefined
                            natty15d @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt No i havent, will try that tomorrow

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @natty15d
                              last edited by Veti

                              @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                              I've been 3d printing for years but I've only ever used simplify3d, are there any other slicers you'd recommend

                              prusaslicers standard profile is quite good and easy to setup

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                              • natty15dundefined
                                natty15d @Veti
                                last edited by natty15d

                                Resliced the file, a single wall cube, at full speed 60mms, and a version with a reduced speed down to 20%. The slow file had the same poor extrusion, the fast file prints perfectly.
                                I then printed another full speed version but this time used the control panel to reduce the print speed to 20% part way through the print.
                                Once the speed was reduced the poor extrusion started again, increased to 50% and it was still bad, back to 100% and it prints beautifully. That must prove the slicer is okay as the full speed file prints perfectly but shows poor extrusion when slowed down in the printer
                                It must be a setting I've messed up in the config but I've no idea what it is?

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
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                                  can you post a picture of your printer?

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @natty15d
                                    last edited by

                                    @natty15d

                                    Try reducing the extruder temps by 5 degree steps and printing again at each temp.

                                    It's possible that you are running hotter than you think and cooking the filament.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      I think @fcwilt is on to something with the temps.

                                      Even so, to remove the configuration from the equation, can you send M98 P"config.g" in the gcode console and post the response? That would show any syntax errors just in case.

                                      And then to really rule an error in config out, you could generate a fresh config set from the online tool to test with to compare.

                                      Seeing a video of the slow print in action might be worthwile as well.

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                                      • natty15dundefined
                                        natty15d @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                                        M98 P"config.g"

                                        M98 P"config.g"
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                                        • natty15dundefined
                                          natty15d @Veti
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                                          @Veti PXL_20201125_180937007.jpg PXL_20201125_180723299~2.jpg
                                          From the bottom to first black line full speed, down to 20% between first and second line, down to 50% second to third, and then last section 100%

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Do you notice any odd movement of the extruder gear when those gaps are made?

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