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    • natty15dundefined
      natty15d
      last edited by

      i also changed to "relative extrusion distances" in simplify3d for the Duet, never needed that for the wanhao i3

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @natty15d
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        @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

        @fcwilt double checked that, 100mm is extruded

        And again, hmm...

        What filament are you using and what at what temp?

        It has to be your hardware or configuration as I have five different Duet WiFi setups and they all work fine at the slow speeds I mentioned.

        We just have to figure out what is different about your setup.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • natty15dundefined
          natty15d
          last edited by natty15d

          PLA printing at 215, its all the same hardware, temps & pla that i used prior to changing to Duet, so i know its tested and works.
          Like you say i also think its a setting ive not set properly thats throwing the slow speed printing out

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          • OwenDundefined
            OwenD @natty15d
            last edited by

            @natty15d
            Is your slicer using volumetric extrusion?
            Have you checked part fan speeds?

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @natty15d
              last edited by

              @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

              PLA printing at 215, its all the same hardware, temps & pla that i used prior to changing to Duet, so i know its tested and works.
              Like you say i also think its a setting ive not set properly thats throwing the slow speed printing out

              I'm having to say "hmm..." a lot on this one.

              Have you watched the status of the print on the DWC (Duet Web Control) and verified the speeds are what they should be - taking into account the various settings of S3D?

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • natty15dundefined
                natty15d @OwenD
                last edited by

                @OwenD not sure on the volumetric slicing, will look into that, Fan speed is 100% after layer 1

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                • natty15dundefined
                  natty15d @fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt No i havent, will try that tomorrow

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @natty15d
                    last edited by Veti

                    @natty15d said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                    I've been 3d printing for years but I've only ever used simplify3d, are there any other slicers you'd recommend

                    prusaslicers standard profile is quite good and easy to setup

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                    • natty15dundefined
                      natty15d @Veti
                      last edited by natty15d

                      Resliced the file, a single wall cube, at full speed 60mms, and a version with a reduced speed down to 20%. The slow file had the same poor extrusion, the fast file prints perfectly.
                      I then printed another full speed version but this time used the control panel to reduce the print speed to 20% part way through the print.
                      Once the speed was reduced the poor extrusion started again, increased to 50% and it was still bad, back to 100% and it prints beautifully. That must prove the slicer is okay as the full speed file prints perfectly but shows poor extrusion when slowed down in the printer
                      It must be a setting I've messed up in the config but I've no idea what it is?

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        can you post a picture of your printer?

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @natty15d
                          last edited by

                          @natty15d

                          Try reducing the extruder temps by 5 degree steps and printing again at each temp.

                          It's possible that you are running hotter than you think and cooking the filament.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I think @fcwilt is on to something with the temps.

                            Even so, to remove the configuration from the equation, can you send M98 P"config.g" in the gcode console and post the response? That would show any syntax errors just in case.

                            And then to really rule an error in config out, you could generate a fresh config set from the online tool to test with to compare.

                            Seeing a video of the slow print in action might be worthwile as well.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            • natty15dundefined
                              natty15d @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux said in Duet 2 inconsistent extrusions at slow speeds:

                              M98 P"config.g"

                              M98 P"config.g"
                              HTTP is enabled on port 80
                              FTP is disabled
                              TELNET is disabled

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                              • natty15dundefined
                                natty15d @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti PXL_20201125_180937007.jpg PXL_20201125_180723299~2.jpg
                                From the bottom to first black line full speed, down to 20% between first and second line, down to 50% second to third, and then last section 100%

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Do you notice any odd movement of the extruder gear when those gaps are made?

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    check that the grub screws inside the bmg are tight on all the gears.

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                                    • natty15dundefined
                                      natty15d @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux no I don't notice any pauses but clearly see it skip three to four mm of extrusion

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                                      • natty15dundefined
                                        natty15d @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti checked that at the weekend and performed atomic pull to clear the hot end

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                                        • natty15dundefined
                                          natty15d @natty15d
                                          last edited by

                                          Just installed a new Nema17 stepper to replace the pancake stepper and no improvement

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                                          • natty15dundefined
                                            natty15d @fcwilt
                                            last edited by

                                            @fcwilt looks like you solved it!
                                            Reduced print temp down to 195 and just had a fantastic print. Retried the fast print and the result was just as good. The ramps board must have been giving false temperature readings as it needed 215 to print PLA.
                                            Thank you so much for everyones help and assistance 16063372699657176508103457256290.jpg

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