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    • arhiundefined
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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @arhi
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        @arhi said in stepper precision:

        Anyhow done with S42B, moving on to TMC2208 driver and different motors

        Have you done any testing of the "two piece" closed loop systems consisting of a stepper/encoder and separate control unit?

        Thanks.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • arhiundefined
          arhi @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt said in stepper precision:

          Have you done any testing of the "two piece" closed loop systems consisting of a stepper/encoder and separate control unit?

          Haven't got to it yet, can't find where I put my vallder stepper with encoder and driver combo. Also I wanna finish with few nema17 before I have to use another mount to test the bigger motor

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          • arhiundefined
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            • arhiundefined
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              second super whooper
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              • arhiundefined
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                third super whapper motor

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                • DaBitundefined
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                  So, basically, at 180 steps or so the actual vs demanded position deviation of the last motor is more than half a step with the others close to that, with zero load?

                  That is way worse than what I would have expected...

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @arhi
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                    @arhi said in stepper precision:

                    Haven't got to it yet, can't find where I put my vallder stepper with encoder and driver combo. Also I wanna finish with few nema17 before I have to use another mount to test the bigger motor

                    That's funny.

                    A while back I purchased such a system for testing but the project got put on hold as other more important things needed to be done.

                    And now I cannot find it.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • arhiundefined
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                      • arhiundefined
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                        @DaBit said in stepper precision:

                        That is way worse than what I would have expected...

                        will have to spend more time looking at all this data, so far I'm running the tests and just showing the error of going forward than backwards. The other data I'm interested is spread of steps going in one direction only, how much off each step is from ideal position but I will do those graphs after I finish all the tests as I need to return this encoder in few days

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                        • arhiundefined
                          arhi @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt said in stepper precision:

                          And now I cannot find it.

                          so you understand my frustration 😞
                          I'm not used to everything being "in order" and everything "having it's place" but I hate working from "storage", can't find anything, $@^%#^ is getting on my nerves and breaks my concentration too .. and I don't see the end, I doubt my house will be ready before summer 😞

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                          • arhiundefined
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                            second DPM motor

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @arhi
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                              @arhi

                              I found the box with the stepper/encoder and controller!

                              Now I just need to find the time - still looking for that.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • arhiundefined
                                arhi @fcwilt
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                                @fcwilt 🙂

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                                • alankilianundefined
                                  alankilian @arhi
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                                  @arhi Are you sure you're calibrating the controller every time?

                                  It looks like going forward, you get 0.5-degree of error, but going backwards, you get MUCH LESS error. Under 0.1 degree

                                  Maybe try going three turns forward and then three turns backwards just in case it take one-turn to calibrate or something.

                                  SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                  • arhiundefined
                                    arhi @alankilian
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                                    @alankilian said in stepper precision:

                                    @arhi Are you sure you're calibrating the controller every time?

                                    For S42B - yes, I am sure, I calibrated every time when running closed loop. I don't see a point as nothing physically changed in the setup between runs but I still run the calibration every time before I run the test as calibration is rather quick (it goes full circle one direction and then full circle other direction) ... anyhow notice these lasts graphs are with TMC2208, nothing to calibrate there

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                                    • arhiundefined
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                                      same motor as earlier only run again to see how "repeatable" this is (not very)

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                                      • arhiundefined
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                                        JK42HS48-1684-01

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                                        • arhiundefined
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                                          • A Former User?
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                                            @arhi

                                            This looks interesting!

                                            do you also think, that comparing one and the same motor once in Fullstep and once in 1/16microsteps, one session with one without microplying to 256 would also tell a bit of how much those features within the driver do contribute to the error?

                                            Great work! Keep it up!

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