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    Smart effector for delta printers
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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957
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      Have a look at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer you will see if you scroll down to the underneath pic of it that there is indeed LED's on the bottom surface as well as 2 showing thru the top to indicate Hotend on and Sensor trigger.

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      • smunterundefined
        smunter
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        I'm in for one once this gets going as well.

        I know adding an IMU was discussed earlier for autolevelling and calibration purposes, but I would another potential use as well: magball disconnect detection. It should be very easy to tell if the effector goes out of level by more than 10 degrees or so, and shut down the printer so no more damage is done. I would take an IMU on board for that purpose alone.

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        • Ethelredundefined
          Ethelred
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          David, what sort of accuracy/repeatability results are you finding for fully assembled ball-ball spacing across rod pitch and array angularity as well as ball planar relations? Standard PCB hole-hole tolerance is +/- 0.10mm. Add to that slop in the ball stud hole fit, ball-to-stud concentricity ( don't know how Haydn specifies this ) as well as PCB warp and stud flange face to ball center. Serious tolerance budgeting - it might be interesting to see what a three sigma distribution looks like. On the other hand deltas often seem to work fairly well even with some pretty low tolerance angle ball stud (ugh!) printed effector platforms.

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          • W3DRKundefined
            W3DRK
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            Wow…I've just now noticed this topic. What a stunning design, I really love the concept!

            I was just planning on refitting my delta with wider rod spacing and a piezo Z-probe effector, but I really like this design better than any printable one. For folks with machines like my UltiBots 250 V-Slot...how would we go about mounting the carriage adapters to our existing wheeled carriages like these?

            https://github.com/UltiBots/K250VS/blob/master/Experimental/umbee_carriage_45.stl

            Also, if you haven't already is there any chance you could work with the Zesty Nimble crew so they can design a mount for this new heatsink/effector arrangement?

            Cheers!

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User
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              @W3DRK:

              Wow…I've just now noticed this topic. What a stunning design, I really love the concept!

              I was just planning on refitting my delta with wider rod spacing and a piezo Z-probe effector, but I really like this design better than any printable one. For folks with machines like my UltiBots 250 V-Slot...how would we go about mounting the carriage adapters to our existing wheeled carriages like these?

              https://github.com/UltiBots/K250VS/blob/master/Experimental/umbee_carriage_45.stl

              Also, if you haven't already is there any chance you could work with the Zesty Nimble crew so they can design a mount for this new heatsink/effector arrangement?

              Cheers!

              Just go buy linear rails and enjoy the precision 😛

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              • W3DRKundefined
                W3DRK
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                OpenBuilds precision V-Slot and Delrin rollers vs cheap Chinese linear rails? No thanks…

                @CaLviNx:

                Just go buy linear rails and enjoy the precision 😛

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  The carriage adapters have the usual 4 mounting holes on a 20mm square to attach to standard linear rail sliders or Kossel wheeled carriage trucks. If the two holes on one side of that carriage are 20mm apart, then I guess you could drill another hole in the carriage adapter for the single hole on the other side of your carriage.

                  Having first used wheeled carriages and then switched to linear rails, I prefer the rails too.

                  We have a couple of beta users who are investigating how to mount the Nimble on top of the effector.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • W3DRKundefined
                    W3DRK
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                    Thanks David. Those 3 holes are for the wheels themselves.

                    But it looks like switching to something like this could work if I can find a printable belt fastening mechanism:

                    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1638410

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                    • SM3Dundefined
                      SM3D
                      last edited by

                      Hi David,
                      I have a linear rail carriage with mounting holes on a 26 mm square.
                      Is it possible to have carriage adapters with no mounting holes so I can drill them using a printed jig?

                      Regards,
                      Vasan

                      Good judgement comes from experience but experience comes from bad judgements

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        I think it would be possible (just) to drill 2.9mm holes with 26m centres in the existing carriage adapters. You would have 1.5mm between the inner edges of your new holes and the outer edges of the existing ones.

                        What size linear rails use 26mm mounting centres?

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                        • SM3Dundefined
                          SM3D
                          last edited by

                          Thanks David for the reply! I might have to be extra careful.
                          I have ARC 15 MN carriage blocks. Here is the link:
                          https://www.dold-mechatronik.de/navi.php?a=45382⟨=eng

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                          • SM3Dundefined
                            SM3D
                            last edited by

                            I forgot to mention that the 26 mm square mounting holes are M4 in size instead of M3. So, I think only undrilled carriage adapter will work for me.

                            Good judgement comes from experience but experience comes from bad judgements

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                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @W3DRK:

                              OpenBuilds precision V-Slot and Delrin rollers vs cheap Chinese linear rails? No thanks…

                              @CaLviNx:

                              Just go buy linear rails and enjoy the precision 😛

                              Who said anything about buying cheap Chinese ?

                              I got genuine hinwin rails through work

                              http://www.hiwin.co.uk/product-category/linear-guideways/hg-series/

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                              • Rommieundefined
                                Rommie
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                                Any more news on a release date for these. Very interested in one

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  Looking like early next month.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • Rommieundefined
                                    Rommie
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                                    Sweet is there any preorder going on??

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                                    • MiRundefined
                                      MiR
                                      last edited by

                                      Please count me in, now that I am back to Haydn's rods instead of tricklaser rods I am very interested, too….

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                                      • Dougal1957undefined
                                        Dougal1957
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                                        @W3DRK:

                                        Wow…I've just now noticed this topic. What a stunning design, I really love the concept!

                                        Also, if you haven't already is there any chance you could work with the Zesty Nimble crew so they can design a mount for this new heatsink/effector arrangement?

                                        Cheers!

                                        Has already been done as long as the Hole system on the production Hot-ends don't change but the Zesty guys will be able to mod that in about 30 sec's flat I reckon Lykle came up with the adaptor in about 30 mins.

                                        see https://www.shapeways.com/product/62MB3QZJ7/nimble-mount-base-new-effector?optionId=62810434

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          The hot end mounting hasn't changed. We managed to squeeze in 3 extra mounting holes in the production version, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Connectors_and_Wiring.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • Whitewolfundefined
                                            Whitewolf
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                                            Will this be compatible with the upcoming Pico hybrid hotend or will it only work with the special e3d mount?

                                            Would love to pair this with a pico hybrid and Zesty nimble cable extruder

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