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    fcwilt
    last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 13:04

    Well I've completely lost track of who was having problems with what.

    @3DPrintingWorld was the OP.

    Then @martin7404 joined the discussion.

    Then @mrenz999 joined the discussion.

    Have we solved anything for anyone yet? 😉

    @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

    Frederick

    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
      last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 15:05

      @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

      @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

      Martin is just bragging! 🤣

      I think my issue might be the magnetic sheet cracking causing a ridge making it not flat in the back left corner. I'm going to take off the magnet tonight and give it a go with just glass on on aluminum. I just cant be down too long because I'm behind on parts.... I need to build more printers.😁

      My bed has ever been as flat as I would have liked it. I may take a skim cut off the top. Has anyone had good luck attaching a silicon heater back on after its been removed?

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        martin7404
        last edited by martin7404 3 Sept 2021, 22:32 9 Mar 2021, 19:23

        I am not bragging, just chime in to share that with faulty board/drivers I got wrong compensation in triple Z setup, the rest is too much I agree.
        My bed is within a few thousands without the magnetic mat and the mat is off with 0.1 mm

        Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
        Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
        Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
        custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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          3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
          last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 22:39

          @martin7404 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

          I am not bragging

          I know, I'm just giving you a hard time. 😁

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            martin7404
            last edited by martin7404 3 Sept 2021, 22:47 9 Mar 2021, 22:46

            MY new board is here tomorrow so I will be able to go back to original setup.
            P.S , Until now I was using prusa slicer profiles of GUI for left and right tools that activates only needed tool and today started calibration prints with dual material, and as far both tools are activated in the beginning , there is difference and it is that during print the standby tool cariage is not moving at least visualy

            Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
            Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
            Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
            custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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              3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
              last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 01:58

              @martin7404 That's strange, not sure how that would make a difference.

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                3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
                last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 02:14

                @fcwilt My bed is definitely bent in the back corner. I'm not sure if this is entirely the issue because it gives a deviation of .1mm but its definitely more than that. I did not consider this as I didn't have any issue for the first six months of use. I'll take it into work and have them make a skim cut to see if this helps.

                Bare aluminum
                BED-ALUM.png

                Glass sitting on top
                BED-ALUM-GLASS.png

                Do you know why the mesh is not centered but in the negative?

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @3DPrintingWorld
                  last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 02:23

                  @3DPrintingWorld said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                  Do you know why the mesh is not centered but in the negative?

                  That's usually because you're not setting Z0 with G30 before doing the mesh.

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    3DPrintingWorld @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 02:45

                    @Phaedrux It homes first which has a G30 at the end so I thought that would apply but Ill try a G30 right after the G28 and before the G29.

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 04:11

                      I'd have to see exactly what gcode is happening in order and what your probe is etc. Normally the Z0 point would be green and the differences above or below. But it's all below, so that means where ever Z0 was set is above the surface of where it thinks the bed is when the mesh was created.

                      The total deviation is quite small though so the heightmap can appear exaggerated. There's also only 4 points, so it could very well be obscuring the Z0 position because it's very far away from the probed points of the mesh. I think a higher resolution height map would tell a more accurate story.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        martin7404
                        last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 18:57

                        @3DPrintingWorld Today while comisioning my new coreXY and as far my plate was givin 0.15 mm deviation on the G29, I played a little with G32
                        Try this as bed.g and see what is the result

                        G29 S2
                        ;M561
                        ;G28 home
                        
                        G30 P0 X15 Y15 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                        ;G30 P0 X15 Y285 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                        G30 P1 X200 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                        ;G30 P0 X200 Y15 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                        ;G30 P0 X331 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                        G30 P2 X331 Y15 Z-99999 S3 ; Probe Right
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        G30 P0 X15 Y285 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                        
                        G30 P1 X200 Y15 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                        
                        ;G30 P0 X331 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                        G30 P2 X331 Y285 Z-99999 S-1 ; Probe Right
                        

                        Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                        Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                        Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                        custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                          mrenz999 @fcwilt
                          last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 14:47

                          @fcwilt I will answer for me. No, my issue was never resolved.

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                            fcwilt @mrenz999
                            last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 15:16

                            @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                            @fcwilt I will answer for me. No, my issue was never resolved.

                            Well I'm sorry to hear that but I have no idea what we are talking about. 😉

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              Phaedrux Moderator @mrenz999
                              last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 19:51

                              @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                              @fcwilt I will answer for me. No, my issue was never resolved.

                              This is a very long thread with multiple people involved. If you're still having some issues, please start a new thread with all the relevant info and we can take another go at it.

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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