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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by

      Well I've completely lost track of who was having problems with what.

      @3DPrintingWorld was the OP.

      Then @martin7404 joined the discussion.

      Then @mrenz999 joined the discussion.

      Have we solved anything for anyone yet? 😉

      @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
        3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
        last edited by

        @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

        @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

        Martin is just bragging! 🤣

        I think my issue might be the magnetic sheet cracking causing a ridge making it not flat in the back left corner. I'm going to take off the magnet tonight and give it a go with just glass on on aluminum. I just cant be down too long because I'm behind on parts.... I need to build more printers.😁

        My bed has ever been as flat as I would have liked it. I may take a skim cut off the top. Has anyone had good luck attaching a silicon heater back on after its been removed?

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        • martin7404undefined
          martin7404
          last edited by martin7404

          I am not bragging, just chime in to share that with faulty board/drivers I got wrong compensation in triple Z setup, the rest is too much I agree.
          My bed is within a few thousands without the magnetic mat and the mat is off with 0.1 mm

          Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
          Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
          Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
          custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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          • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
            3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
            last edited by

            @martin7404 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

            I am not bragging

            I know, I'm just giving you a hard time. 😁

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            • martin7404undefined
              martin7404
              last edited by martin7404

              MY new board is here tomorrow so I will be able to go back to original setup.
              P.S , Until now I was using prusa slicer profiles of GUI for left and right tools that activates only needed tool and today started calibration prints with dual material, and as far both tools are activated in the beginning , there is difference and it is that during print the standby tool cariage is not moving at least visualy

              Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
              Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
              Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
              custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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              • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                last edited by

                @martin7404 That's strange, not sure how that would make a difference.

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                • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                  3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt My bed is definitely bent in the back corner. I'm not sure if this is entirely the issue because it gives a deviation of .1mm but its definitely more than that. I did not consider this as I didn't have any issue for the first six months of use. I'll take it into work and have them make a skim cut to see if this helps.

                  Bare aluminum
                  BED-ALUM.png

                  Glass sitting on top
                  BED-ALUM-GLASS.png

                  Do you know why the mesh is not centered but in the negative?

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @3DPrintingWorld
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                    @3DPrintingWorld said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                    Do you know why the mesh is not centered but in the negative?

                    That's usually because you're not setting Z0 with G30 before doing the mesh.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                      3DPrintingWorld @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux It homes first which has a G30 at the end so I thought that would apply but Ill try a G30 right after the G28 and before the G29.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        I'd have to see exactly what gcode is happening in order and what your probe is etc. Normally the Z0 point would be green and the differences above or below. But it's all below, so that means where ever Z0 was set is above the surface of where it thinks the bed is when the mesh was created.

                        The total deviation is quite small though so the heightmap can appear exaggerated. There's also only 4 points, so it could very well be obscuring the Z0 position because it's very far away from the probed points of the mesh. I think a higher resolution height map would tell a more accurate story.

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                        • martin7404undefined
                          martin7404
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                          @3DPrintingWorld Today while comisioning my new coreXY and as far my plate was givin 0.15 mm deviation on the G29, I played a little with G32
                          Try this as bed.g and see what is the result

                          G29 S2
                          ;M561
                          ;G28 home
                          
                          G30 P0 X15 Y15 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                          ;G30 P0 X15 Y285 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                          G30 P1 X200 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                          ;G30 P0 X200 Y15 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                          ;G30 P0 X331 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                          G30 P2 X331 Y15 Z-99999 S3 ; Probe Right
                          
                          
                          
                          
                          G30 P0 X15 Y285 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                          
                          G30 P1 X200 Y15 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                          
                          ;G30 P0 X331 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                          G30 P2 X331 Y285 Z-99999 S-1 ; Probe Right
                          

                          Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                          Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                          Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                          custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                          • mrenz999undefined
                            mrenz999 @fcwilt
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt I will answer for me. No, my issue was never resolved.

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @mrenz999
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                              @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                              @fcwilt I will answer for me. No, my issue was never resolved.

                              Well I'm sorry to hear that but I have no idea what we are talking about. 😉

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @mrenz999
                                last edited by

                                @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                @fcwilt I will answer for me. No, my issue was never resolved.

                                This is a very long thread with multiple people involved. If you're still having some issues, please start a new thread with all the relevant info and we can take another go at it.

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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