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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @mrenz999
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      @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

      @fcwilt Perhaps. I did print the tool but things move so I will recheck them.
      Is there a way to add the a and s parameter to your bed.g when doing the leveling so it does multiple probes ?

      Yes but is there some reason you cannot modify the existing M558?

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
        3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
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        @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

        @3DPrintingWorld I pulled screws out of all of them and started a retighten. Trying to see if something came loose.

        Ok, that makes sense.

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        • mrenz999undefined
          mrenz999
          last edited by

          I can but does that affect the bed leveling as well ?

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @mrenz999
            last edited by

            @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

            I can but does that affect the bed leveling as well ?

            If affects the way the probe works where ever it is used.

            Do you wish to have it behave in different ways in different places?

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • mrenz999undefined
              mrenz999 @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt Not necessarily. I just want it to do multiple probes when it checks bed leveling when I home the printer.

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              • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                Why the G29 S3? The G29 S0 creates the height map and loads it.

                Sorry I should have deleted that, I was making edits to mine before I posted it.

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @mrenz999
                  last edited by

                  @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                  @fcwilt Not necessarily. I just want it to do multiple probes when it checks bed leveling when I home the printer.

                  Well the intent of the A and S parameters is to increase the accuracy and repeatability of the probe.

                  So I have always set them and let them take affect whenever the probe is used.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • mrenz999undefined
                    mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt makes perfect sense. I will set that. Thank You

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                    • martin7404undefined
                      martin7404
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                      here is my 4 point map
                      map.png

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt
                        last edited by

                        Well I've completely lost track of who was having problems with what.

                        @3DPrintingWorld was the OP.

                        Then @martin7404 joined the discussion.

                        Then @mrenz999 joined the discussion.

                        Have we solved anything for anyone yet? 😉

                        @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                          3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                          @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

                          Martin is just bragging! 🤣

                          I think my issue might be the magnetic sheet cracking causing a ridge making it not flat in the back left corner. I'm going to take off the magnet tonight and give it a go with just glass on on aluminum. I just cant be down too long because I'm behind on parts.... I need to build more printers.😁

                          My bed has ever been as flat as I would have liked it. I may take a skim cut off the top. Has anyone had good luck attaching a silicon heater back on after its been removed?

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                          • martin7404undefined
                            martin7404
                            last edited by martin7404

                            I am not bragging, just chime in to share that with faulty board/drivers I got wrong compensation in triple Z setup, the rest is too much I agree.
                            My bed is within a few thousands without the magnetic mat and the mat is off with 0.1 mm

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                            Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                            Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                            custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                            • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                              3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                              last edited by

                              @martin7404 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                              I am not bragging

                              I know, I'm just giving you a hard time. 😁

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                              • martin7404undefined
                                martin7404
                                last edited by martin7404

                                MY new board is here tomorrow so I will be able to go back to original setup.
                                P.S , Until now I was using prusa slicer profiles of GUI for left and right tools that activates only needed tool and today started calibration prints with dual material, and as far both tools are activated in the beginning , there is difference and it is that during print the standby tool cariage is not moving at least visualy

                                Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                                Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                                Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                                custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                                • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                  3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
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                                  @martin7404 That's strange, not sure how that would make a difference.

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                                  • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                    3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
                                    last edited by

                                    @fcwilt My bed is definitely bent in the back corner. I'm not sure if this is entirely the issue because it gives a deviation of .1mm but its definitely more than that. I did not consider this as I didn't have any issue for the first six months of use. I'll take it into work and have them make a skim cut to see if this helps.

                                    Bare aluminum
                                    BED-ALUM.png

                                    Glass sitting on top
                                    BED-ALUM-GLASS.png

                                    Do you know why the mesh is not centered but in the negative?

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @3DPrintingWorld
                                      last edited by

                                      @3DPrintingWorld said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                      Do you know why the mesh is not centered but in the negative?

                                      That's usually because you're not setting Z0 with G30 before doing the mesh.

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                        3DPrintingWorld @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux It homes first which has a G30 at the end so I thought that would apply but Ill try a G30 right after the G28 and before the G29.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          I'd have to see exactly what gcode is happening in order and what your probe is etc. Normally the Z0 point would be green and the differences above or below. But it's all below, so that means where ever Z0 was set is above the surface of where it thinks the bed is when the mesh was created.

                                          The total deviation is quite small though so the heightmap can appear exaggerated. There's also only 4 points, so it could very well be obscuring the Z0 position because it's very far away from the probed points of the mesh. I think a higher resolution height map would tell a more accurate story.

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                                          • martin7404undefined
                                            martin7404
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                                            @3DPrintingWorld Today while comisioning my new coreXY and as far my plate was givin 0.15 mm deviation on the G29, I played a little with G32
                                            Try this as bed.g and see what is the result

                                            G29 S2
                                            ;M561
                                            ;G28 home
                                            
                                            G30 P0 X15 Y15 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                                            ;G30 P0 X15 Y285 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                                            G30 P1 X200 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                                            ;G30 P0 X200 Y15 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                                            ;G30 P0 X331 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                                            G30 P2 X331 Y15 Z-99999 S3 ; Probe Right
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            G30 P0 X15 Y285 Z-99999     ; Probe Left
                                            
                                            G30 P1 X200 Y15 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                                            
                                            ;G30 P0 X331 Y285 Z-99999   ; Probe Middle
                                            G30 P2 X331 Y285 Z-99999 S-1 ; Probe Right
                                            

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                                            Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                                            Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                                            custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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