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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @klcjr89
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      @klcjr89 The flow rate in the data you posted is in H/L which I read as Hours per Litre. I'm assuming that's a typo and should be Litres/Hour. (Or does it really take >600 hours to shift one Litre of air ☺ ).

      Ian
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      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @c310
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        @c310 said in Fans vs Berd-Air:

        my design

        Link is broken.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • laelundefined
          lael
          last edited by

          ok, so this is an old post, but it seems to be the most popular on google and useful. Does anyone have any reports on how their berd air systems have held up over time? Have they been excellent or a waste of time? How is their reliability?

          Does anyone have any followup data on the brushless aliexpress pump listed? It looks like the choice I am most tempted by at the moment.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux said in Fans vs Berd-Air:

            @c310 said in Fans vs Berd-Air:

            my design

            Link is broken.

            Hey look the link is working now.

            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3429324

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • Surgikillundefined
              Surgikill @lael
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              @lael I just picked up a brushed system from the makerhive. Much cheaper than the brushless option. I might see if I can make the pump brushless at some point, but for now it's working great. I made my own air mount with some brass tube from Lowe's. Quieter and much easier to work with.

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              • lord binkyundefined
                lord binky @Surgikill
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                @Surgikill I'm curious what size brass tubing you use? I've tried using small hobby brass tubing and even packing the tube with salt powder it would still collapse in on itself in bad ways when i'd try to bend it. I'd much rather use brass than aluminum since the brass would deform without tearing/ breaking as easy as the aluminum, and the akuminum gets more break prone after exlosure to hotend buuut i have not been able to shape it without issues.

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                • Hergonowayundefined
                  Hergonoway @lord binky
                  last edited by Hergonoway

                  @lord-binky don't use salt, use electric wire. Put it in the tube, bend it and pull the wire. For example, iirc, K&S soft brass (something like 8121) tube is a perfect match for heater cartridge electric wire gauge.

                  Edit: yes heater cartridge cable perfect fit 8121 K&S soft brass tube

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                  Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @lord binky
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                    @lord-binky said in Fans vs Berd-Air:

                    @Surgikill I'm curious what size brass tubing you use? I've tried using small hobby brass tubing and even packing the tube with salt powder it would still collapse in on itself in bad ways when i'd try to bend it. I'd much rather use brass than aluminum since the brass would deform without tearing/ breaking as easy as the aluminum, and the akuminum gets more break prone after exlosure to hotend buuut i have not been able to shape it without issues.

                    Invest in a small tube bender (min version of what plumbers use to bend pipes). Something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tubing-Bender-Degrees-Manual-Bending/dp/B088H1MHWN/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=119993429162&dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7yCBhDJARIsAMWFScPk-xcgly9PRIz5mgxBPKlnamYT_OstJqT7pmfj1g5J3HHZ2Dz1Xs8aAohjEALw_wcB&hvadid=501516551233&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9046150&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14776184315352084993&hvtargid=kwd-295847543910&hydadcr=1596_1935511&keywords=small+tube+bender&qid=1615808871&sr=8-7

                    Ian
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                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • Surgikillundefined
                      Surgikill @lord binky
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                      @lord-binky I didn't bend the tube. I just made jigs to drill it, then glued it into a tusk mount.

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                      • lord binkyundefined
                        lord binky
                        last edited by

                        Thanks, I'll try again with some of the cloth covered wire and see if that won't get stuck. I used jig's and spring tube benders which worked ok for the aluminum but that brass I tried before was just determined to fold in on itself.

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                        • jens55undefined
                          jens55
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                          A wild suggestion ... try freezing some water in it and then do the spring tube bender thing. I have not tried that myself, just read about it.

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                          • c310undefined
                            c310
                            last edited by

                            try tube bender https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2869014

                            and my tube drilling mask https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3608733

                            perhaps other berd-air useful parts :

                            Silencer https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3429324
                            motor holder https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3429374

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