Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve

o_lampe

@maxgyver
I haven't written anything in Meta-code yet, but I read a little.
E.g. the waved brackets {} are mandatory for the outmost math-expressions.
If you want to test it, you can replace M280...with a harmless echo P"var.servo_out"

I believe, there is a way to call daemon.g more often to get a faster response, maybe the experts can chime in here?

For later editing it could be useful to put the min/max values in variables too, otherwise you can cut a few corners, where a value is zero.

OwenD

@maxgyver

@maxgyver
You would probably be better off declaring global variables in config.g then updating the value in your macro ( or daemon.g)
If you're running in daemon.g it just seems counter productive to be declaring and freeing variables constantly.

Config.g

; create variables - must be after servo is created 
global scale_factor = {(90 - 0) / (1 - 0)} ; no need for the math in this instance but it makes it clear how you arrive at the value.
global servo_out = 0 ; set to zero initially 
 M280 P0 S{global.servo_out} ; start with valve closed

Daemon.g

set global.servo_out = {global.scale_factor * (fans[0].actualValue - 0) + 0} ; calculate position required 
M280 P0 S{global.servo_out} ; adjust valve position.

You could optionally use an IF statement to only adjust when required, which I suppose would reduce the traffic and cpu time by a tiny amount.

OwenD

@maxgyver said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

@o_lampe

So just to recap, these are my values:

min_in = 0 (M106 S0 ->Fan off)

max_in = 255 (M106 S255 -> Fan full on)

min_out = 0 (M280 P0 S0 -> Servo at 0° -> valve closed)

max_out =90 (M280 P0 S90 -> Servo at 90° -> valve fully open)

Actually , thinking about this, the value you get back from fans[0].actualValue will be in the range 0-1, not 0-255
You will need to change your code accordingly.

OwenD

It's a rainy day here, so for something to do I decided to fully test this.
Using a YM2763 13kg/cm hobby servo (externally powered so as to not risk damaging the duet).
This has an input range of 0-180 which corresponds to the angle.

Please refer to the notes for M280 as other servos may require different values

It's not really necessary to create variables for all settings, but it makes adjustment and readability easier.

in config.g

;Valve Control
; Set up scaling variables {(output_end - output_start) / (input_end - input_start)}
M950 S1 C"exp.heater4"  ; assign GPIO port 1 to heater4 on expansion connector, servo mode
global InputStart = 0 
global InputEnd = 1
global OutputStart = 0
global OutputEnd = 90
global ScaleFactor = (global.OutputEnd - global.OutputStart) / (global.InputEnd - global.InputStart) ; no need for the math in this instance but it makes it clear how you arrive at the value.
global ServoOut = floor(global.ScaleFactor * (fans[0].actualValue - global.InputStart) + 0.5) + global.OutputStart ; calculate position required on sevo - use floor() to apply rounding
M280 P1 S{global.servo_out} ; adjust valve position to reflect fan speed.

in daemon.g or macro

set global.ServoOut = floor((global.ScaleFactor * (fans[0].actualValue - global.InputStart)) + 0.5) + global.OutputStart ; calculate position required - use floor() to apply rounding to nearest whole number
;echo {global.ServoOut}
M280 P1 S{global.ServoOut} ; adjust valve attached to servo on P1 to reflect scaled fan speed.

o_lampe

@owend
Thank you for chiming in!
Can you confirm that in math formulas no waved brackets are necessary, but when I call eg. M280 the parameter has to be wrapped in {}?
How do I know, I have enough free memory to write longer meta-code? (AI for TicTacToe can get quite voluminous)

OwenD

@o_lampe said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

@owend
Thank you for chiming in!
Can you confirm that in math formulas no waved brackets are necessary, but when I call eg. M280 the parameter has to be wrapped in {}?

Correct on both counts

How do I know, I have enough free memory to write longer meta-code? (AI for TicTacToe can get quite voluminous)

You can use M122 to see how much of the heap is used.
See here

o_lampe

@owend
I just found this thread, please see my reply there

o_lampe

@OwenD and @MaxGyver
Thinking further and having pity with the servo, it would be better to add a 'hysteresis' in the code, such as

[pseudo code]
If (abs(new_fan_value - old_fan_value) > hysteresis)
   go on
else
  break

That's not necessarily a problem with fan-values changing in big numbers, but a Servo also has a'deadband' which you have to keep in mind. (and for further reference, if someone wants to reuse the code for something else)

MaxGyver

@owend

I am getting the following error after inserting your code in my config.g

"Error: Failed to read code from macro config.g: Failed to parse major G-code number (lobal) in line 85"

To me, it looks like the global variable are not recognized by the firmware:

I am using firmware version 3.3-b2.

o_lampe

You have written servoout and also servo_out.

MaxGyver

@o_lampe said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

You have written servoout and also servo_out.

Nope, this did not cause the error...

"Error: Failed to read code from macro config.g: Failed to parse major G-code number (lobal) in line 4"

;Valve Control
; Set up scaling variables {(output_end - output_start) / (input_end - input_start)}
M950 S1 C"io4.out"  ; assign GPIO port 1 to heater4 on expansion connector, servo mode
global InputStart = 0 
global InputEnd = 1
global OutputStart = 0
global OutputEnd = 90
global ScaleFactor = (global.OutputEnd - global.OutputStart) / (global.InputEnd - global.InputStart) ; no need for the math in this instance but it makes it clear how you arrive at the value.
global ServoOut = floor(global.ScaleFactor * (fans[0].actualValue - global.InputStart) + 0.5) + global.OutputStart ; calculate position required on sevo - use floor() to apply rounding
M280 P1 S{global.ServoOut} ; adjust valve position to reflect fan speed.

OwenD

@maxgyver
@maxgyver
I'm assuming you are running the correct versions on DWC, etc etc
We are both running RRF3.3b2 and it works for me.
I'm on a Duet 2 wifi.
I don't have a duet 3, but I suspect it's actually coming from your M950 command on the previous line.
Either that are it's one of this SBC specific issues.

What happens when you run those commands individually from the console command line?

OwenD

@o_lampe
That was actually my error in the original.

o_lampe

@maxgyver said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

G-code number (lobal)

Your parser believes global is the beginning of a move command and it can't parse "lobal" as number (0,1,2,3,4 expected)
I'm with @OwenD it might be related to SBC issues.

MaxGyver

@owend said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

(...)I suspect it's actually coming from your M950 command on the previous line.
Either that are it's one of this SBC specific issues.

It's not the M950 command (I have checked by commenting out this line)

@owend said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

What happens when you run those commands individually from the console command line?

I get the same error message.

-Max

MaxGyver

@maxgyver

After upgrading to Beta3.3 the error message has changed to the following:

the code in config.g:

;Valve Control
; Set up scaling variables {(output_end - output_start) / (input_end - input_start)}
M950 S1 C"io4.out"  ; assign GPIO port 1 to heater4 on expansion connector, servo mode
global InputStart = 0 
global InputEnd = 1
global OutputStart = 0
global OutputEnd = 90
global ScaleFactor = (global.OutputEnd - global.OutputStart) / (global.InputEnd - global.InputStart) ; no need for the math in this instance but it makes it clear how you arrive at the value.
global ServoOut = floor(global.ScaleFactor * (fans[0].actualValue - global.InputStart) + 0.5) + global.OutputStart ; calculate position required on sevo - use floor() to apply rounding
M280 P1 S{global.ServoOut} ; adjust valve position to reflect fan speed.

and deamon.g

set global.ServoOut = floor((global.ScaleFactor * (fans[0].actualValue - global.InputStart)) + 0.5) + global.OutputStart ; calculate position required - use floor() to apply rounding to nearest whole number
;echo {global.ServoOut}
M280 P1 S{global.ServoOut} ; adjust valve attached to servo on P1 to reflect scaled fan speed.

-Max

OwenD

@maxgyver
Try removing all the spaces around the variable names and in the equations
I'm pretty sure I read another post where that was an issue on SBC
There is also a 3.3RC1+2 binary you might try.

Also note that daemon.g only runs once every 10 seconds now, so there's going to be a delay between setting the fan and the servo reacting.
Moot until you get it working again of course.

MaxGyver

@owend said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

Also note that daemon.g only runs once every 10 seconds now, so there's going to be a delay between setting the fan and the servo reacting.

I recon this would make this solution almost useless considering the motion of the servo itself introduces another small delay.

I will submit a Firmware Feature request to add Stepper/RC-Servo Support for M106

-Max

dc42

@jay_s_uk said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

@MaxGyver can you not use the L and X commands of M106 to do that?

Lnnn Set the minimum fan speed (0 to 255 or 0.0 to 1.0) when a non-zero fan speed is requested.
Xnnn Set the maximum fan speed (0 to 255 or 0.0 to 1.0) when a non-zero fan speed is requested. (supported in RRF >= 2.02)

Yes that should work.

MaxGyver

@dc42

I have already tried using the L and X factor of M106 as suggested by @Phaedrux and @jay_s_uk in this thread.

@maxgyver said in Pressured air cooling controlled with servo and ball valve:

@Phaedrux

I have already tried this. The L and X factor of M106 will not scale the range but rather set the minimum and maximum fan speed.

With this configuration the valve will stay in the same slightly open position at a fans peed of 5-80%. So I still only have real control over the flow from 80-90% fan speed.

I did play around with different values for L and X again just yesterday without success.
To my understanding the L and X factor only define the start and endpoint of the usable range between S=0-255.
But in order to work with a servo I need to scale every point in between S=0-90 (0°-90° servo angle) to have linear control. Or am I missing something here?

-Max